1 00:00:08,310 --> 00:00:05,349 hey everyone 2 00:00:09,990 --> 00:00:08,320 welcome to geofoam webcast today's guest 3 00:00:12,070 --> 00:00:10,000 is going to be reed summers 4 00:00:13,030 --> 00:00:12,080 i will be talking to him about allies of 5 00:00:15,030 --> 00:00:13,040 humanity 6 00:00:16,790 --> 00:00:15,040 which is a body of work that was started 7 00:00:19,830 --> 00:00:16,800 by his father marshall summers 8 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:19,840 back in the late 70s and as always i'm 9 00:00:22,630 --> 00:00:21,439 going to let the guests get into the 10 00:00:26,070 --> 00:00:22,640 background information 11 00:00:27,429 --> 00:00:26,080 so let's get to it welcome reed thanks 12 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:27,439 for being on how are you 13 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:29,840 good thank you for having me well so i'm 14 00:00:32,229 --> 00:00:31,599 glad we're able to connect i know it's 15 00:00:34,389 --> 00:00:32,239 been 16 00:00:35,510 --> 00:00:34,399 um several several months now that we've 17 00:00:37,590 --> 00:00:35,520 been trying to 18 00:00:38,950 --> 00:00:37,600 figure out a date and time so i'm glad 19 00:00:41,750 --> 00:00:38,960 today is today 20 00:00:42,950 --> 00:00:41,760 so as usual i would like to just ask you 21 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:42,960 if you can go a little bit 22 00:00:46,389 --> 00:00:45,600 into your background information yeah 23 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:46,399 sure um 24 00:00:50,709 --> 00:00:48,960 well for the last 10 years i've been 25 00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:50,719 working with my father marshall theon 26 00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:52,879 summers on presenting 27 00:00:58,630 --> 00:00:56,800 a very new perspective regarding contact 28 00:01:01,830 --> 00:00:58,640 who is in our world what they're doing 29 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:01,840 and why and a preparation for contact 30 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:05,040 that everyone and anyone can can use 31 00:01:10,550 --> 00:01:08,400 and bring into their life to help them 32 00:01:12,550 --> 00:01:10,560 prepare for what probably is the biggest 33 00:01:14,230 --> 00:01:12,560 event in human history which is contact 34 00:01:15,190 --> 00:01:14,240 with non-human intelligent life in the 35 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:15,200 universe 36 00:01:20,469 --> 00:01:18,479 so read the initially the the books 37 00:01:22,149 --> 00:01:20,479 um allies of humanity there's four 38 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:22,159 volumes correct 39 00:01:29,429 --> 00:01:26,400 correct yes so in 1997 my father 40 00:01:31,749 --> 00:01:29,439 received the first set of briefings 41 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:31,759 from a group of observers 42 00:01:35,590 --> 00:01:33,680 extraterrestrial observers who came to 43 00:01:37,830 --> 00:01:35,600 the vicinity of the earth 44 00:01:39,670 --> 00:01:37,840 to observe the alien intervention 45 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:39,680 underway in our world and report on its 46 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:40,880 activities 47 00:01:44,389 --> 00:01:42,640 and these individuals called themselves 48 00:01:46,710 --> 00:01:44,399 the allies of humanity 49 00:01:48,630 --> 00:01:46,720 and in 1997 they gave their first set of 50 00:01:51,270 --> 00:01:48,640 briefings and then that was followed by 51 00:01:52,950 --> 00:01:51,280 three more sets of briefings and so 52 00:01:54,230 --> 00:01:52,960 there are now four books from the allies 53 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:54,240 of humanity 54 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:57,360 which detail in 55 00:02:00,389 --> 00:01:59,600 in great depth uh the activities of 56 00:02:02,630 --> 00:02:00,399 those visiting 57 00:02:03,830 --> 00:02:02,640 our world who have been present in our 58 00:02:07,190 --> 00:02:03,840 world for 59 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:07,200 over 60 60 years and and what their 60 00:02:09,669 --> 00:02:09,039 agenda is how they're accomplishing that 61 00:02:11,910 --> 00:02:09,679 agenda 62 00:02:13,190 --> 00:02:11,920 and where we stand uh as the native 63 00:02:14,949 --> 00:02:13,200 peoples facing that 64 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:14,959 well reid i'd love to get into some of 65 00:02:18,949 --> 00:02:16,400 that with you um i 66 00:02:19,589 --> 00:02:18,959 first want to ask you more about you um 67 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:19,599 when you 68 00:02:22,869 --> 00:02:21,120 first started working with your father 69 00:02:24,070 --> 00:02:22,879 is there something that you felt 70 00:02:26,309 --> 00:02:24,080 inclined to do or 71 00:02:27,750 --> 00:02:26,319 how did that come about you said what 10 72 00:02:31,110 --> 00:02:27,760 years ago yeah it was 73 00:02:33,350 --> 00:02:31,120 you know kind of mysterious um well 74 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:33,360 and not um i am marshall's son so 75 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:34,720 marshall was doing this for 76 00:02:38,869 --> 00:02:37,200 you know for many many years all 77 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:38,879 throughout my childhood receiving 78 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:41,040 this communication presenting it 79 00:02:44,070 --> 00:02:42,000 presenting at 80 00:02:45,830 --> 00:02:44,080 forums like mufon and doing numerous 81 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:45,840 radio interviews and 82 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:49,680 trying to educate people about 83 00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:52,239 the gravity of contact and and what we 84 00:02:55,990 --> 00:02:54,000 need to be doing about it 85 00:02:57,830 --> 00:02:56,000 uh so i grew up in that and i saw my 86 00:03:00,550 --> 00:02:57,840 father doing that work and that 87 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:00,560 i think deep that moved me though i 88 00:03:03,589 --> 00:03:02,400 didn't know it moved me or it inspired 89 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:03,599 me though i wasn't aware of that 90 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:04,560 inspiration 91 00:03:08,390 --> 00:03:07,440 for many years so i i went off and i was 92 00:03:11,589 --> 00:03:08,400 um 93 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:11,599 i was in college taking on my own career 94 00:03:13,990 --> 00:03:12,000 path 95 00:03:15,509 --> 00:03:14,000 and i just had this gut knowing that i 96 00:03:17,509 --> 00:03:15,519 needed to 97 00:03:19,430 --> 00:03:17,519 to get back home and help marshall 98 00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:19,440 present the allies of humanity briefings 99 00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:21,040 and this was building for me for some 100 00:03:25,190 --> 00:03:22,400 time 101 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:25,200 and that actually happened back in 2004 102 00:03:28,869 --> 00:03:26,480 so 103 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:28,879 gosh help me out with the math on that 104 00:03:33,910 --> 00:03:30,239 that's a long time ago 105 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:33,920 um so yeah that's 17 years ago 106 00:03:39,750 --> 00:03:37,200 um and so but you know twists and turns 107 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:39,760 in my life took me away for a few years 108 00:03:45,750 --> 00:03:43,040 um but in the back of my mind i always 109 00:03:46,789 --> 00:03:45,760 knew how important it was what these 110 00:03:48,550 --> 00:03:46,799 briefings 111 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:48,560 presented to the world the perspective 112 00:03:53,509 --> 00:03:50,959 they offered i knew 113 00:03:55,270 --> 00:03:53,519 that you know an enormous percentage of 114 00:03:55,830 --> 00:03:55,280 people on planet earth care about 115 00:03:58,070 --> 00:03:55,840 contact 116 00:03:59,110 --> 00:03:58,080 believe we're being visited and and 117 00:04:00,949 --> 00:03:59,120 everyone 118 00:04:02,869 --> 00:04:00,959 even if they don't believe that may have 119 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:02,879 an innate knowing or a gut sense that 120 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:05,680 this is actually happening or may happen 121 00:04:10,070 --> 00:04:07,200 and that it will be really big when it 122 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:10,080 does and so here my father 123 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:11,760 for some years has been working to 124 00:04:15,509 --> 00:04:13,519 present this information 125 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:15,519 and this preparation to people and i i 126 00:04:18,629 --> 00:04:16,880 just realized 127 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:18,639 this will really help the world this is 128 00:04:25,749 --> 00:04:21,440 one thing this is something i need to do 129 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:25,759 and so i chose to to cancel my plans 130 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:27,520 back out of what i was doing with my 131 00:04:32,150 --> 00:04:29,120 life at that at that time 132 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:32,160 and and come back to help my father 133 00:04:37,909 --> 00:04:35,280 and um so 10 years later here i am i 134 00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:37,919 think i just hit the 10-year anniversary 135 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:41,040 back in march maybe 136 00:04:44,629 --> 00:04:43,520 and so i mean this is it this is huge 137 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:44,639 contact 138 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:47,040 what could be bigger and so and if 139 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:48,320 you've got something 140 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:50,240 like the allies of humanity briefings 141 00:04:52,230 --> 00:04:51,680 that is really important for people to 142 00:04:54,870 --> 00:04:52,240 hear 143 00:04:56,390 --> 00:04:54,880 this is what i would want to be doing 144 00:04:58,070 --> 00:04:56,400 with my life 145 00:05:00,310 --> 00:04:58,080 so in the description below i'm going to 146 00:05:01,110 --> 00:05:00,320 have your links uh the link to the 147 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:01,120 allies 148 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:04,240 of humanity webs webpage and again i'm 149 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:06,560 sorry help me out again sovereignty 150 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:08,880 declaration of human sovereignty 151 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:11,759 12 152 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:14,400 points of the the briefing so i'm gonna 153 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:15,280 have those 154 00:05:19,029 --> 00:05:16,960 available in description and i hope and 155 00:05:23,029 --> 00:05:19,039 encourage everyone to check those out 156 00:05:25,110 --> 00:05:23,039 now read what i wanted to to ask you 157 00:05:26,950 --> 00:05:25,120 uh can you maybe go a little bit into 158 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:26,960 how did your father initially receive 159 00:05:32,070 --> 00:05:28,720 this information 160 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:32,080 yeah long story um takes us back to the 161 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:32,800 80s 162 00:05:40,710 --> 00:05:37,600 marshall was 163 00:05:42,790 --> 00:05:40,720 a teacher for the blind and 164 00:05:43,990 --> 00:05:42,800 he was a very skilled instructor working 165 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:44,000 with those with these 166 00:05:49,590 --> 00:05:47,039 these physical disabilities and 167 00:05:51,990 --> 00:05:49,600 during the course of that work this 168 00:05:54,230 --> 00:05:52,000 voice experience began to emerge for him 169 00:05:55,909 --> 00:05:54,240 this this voice guiding him how to work 170 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:55,919 with people how to respond to people 171 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:57,360 very dynamically 172 00:06:00,710 --> 00:05:59,600 you could call this the voice of 173 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:00,720 intuition 174 00:06:06,790 --> 00:06:03,759 or higher consciousness or 175 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:06,800 or even an angelic voice and at the time 176 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:07,600 marshall didn't know 177 00:06:10,870 --> 00:06:09,600 quite what it was but he followed that 178 00:06:14,629 --> 00:06:10,880 and in time 179 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:14,639 that became something of a connection or 180 00:06:19,189 --> 00:06:15,680 a line 181 00:06:21,430 --> 00:06:19,199 to a higher set of powers that actually 182 00:06:24,870 --> 00:06:21,440 were intending to guide him 183 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:24,880 and so he followed that guidance these 184 00:06:28,629 --> 00:06:27,280 individuals guiding him at that time he 185 00:06:30,230 --> 00:06:28,639 called the unseen ones 186 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:30,240 the allies of humanity referred to the 187 00:06:34,870 --> 00:06:32,160 unseen ones as well 188 00:06:35,749 --> 00:06:34,880 essentially an angelic presence that 189 00:06:37,749 --> 00:06:35,759 abides with 190 00:06:39,749 --> 00:06:37,759 all people in the world and guides those 191 00:06:41,510 --> 00:06:39,759 of us who can receive guidance 192 00:06:44,870 --> 00:06:41,520 so over many years marshall followed 193 00:06:48,629 --> 00:06:44,880 that and that emerged into a teaching 194 00:06:51,029 --> 00:06:48,639 and then a very sudden and 195 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:51,039 powerful revelation occurred for him 196 00:06:56,230 --> 00:06:52,960 toward the end of that process 197 00:06:57,990 --> 00:06:56,240 and that revelation in some ways 198 00:07:00,150 --> 00:06:58,000 shattered his life to that moment in 199 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:00,160 terms of his associations 200 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:02,160 everything he thought he was doing and 201 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:04,000 it and it really began a whole new 202 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:04,800 journey 203 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:08,479 and um that revelation was 204 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:10,880 a set of instructions to record a series 205 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:13,199 of messages for humanity from an angelic 206 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:14,560 source 207 00:07:17,589 --> 00:07:16,560 and so marshall embarked on that new 208 00:07:19,589 --> 00:07:17,599 journey and that 209 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:19,599 has yielded what is now called the new 210 00:07:23,029 --> 00:07:21,039 message from god 211 00:07:24,390 --> 00:07:23,039 which is a set of revelations from a 212 00:07:26,710 --> 00:07:24,400 higher power 213 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:26,720 regarding humanity's place in a larger 214 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:28,240 universe 215 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:30,560 our current stage of evolution into that 216 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:31,599 larger 217 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:34,560 greater community as it calls it and 218 00:07:39,029 --> 00:07:35,599 many many many 219 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:39,039 other topics of of great interest uh for 220 00:07:41,350 --> 00:07:39,840 people i mean 221 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:41,360 the new message covers almost every 222 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:43,199 topic imaginable 223 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:45,280 it's over 9000 pages in length at this 224 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:47,680 point he's been receiving it for over 34 225 00:07:51,749 --> 00:07:48,560 years 226 00:07:53,350 --> 00:07:51,759 and so i know that doesn't sound 227 00:07:55,110 --> 00:07:53,360 very connected to the allies but it 228 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:55,120 takes us there and so 229 00:07:59,270 --> 00:07:58,240 the new message it's core and its core 230 00:08:01,589 --> 00:07:59,280 focus and emphasis 231 00:08:02,550 --> 00:08:01,599 is really about our emergence into a 232 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:02,560 larger universe 233 00:08:07,029 --> 00:08:04,800 what it calls the greater community and 234 00:08:10,070 --> 00:08:07,039 the contact that we would have 235 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:10,080 eventually with life in that universe 236 00:08:13,830 --> 00:08:12,000 and how that would be really the 237 00:08:15,029 --> 00:08:13,840 greatest leap this race has ever taken 238 00:08:18,390 --> 00:08:15,039 and may ever take 239 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:18,400 and a very risky one at that a leap 240 00:08:21,670 --> 00:08:20,400 requiring you know preparation and 241 00:08:24,309 --> 00:08:21,680 instruction 242 00:08:25,990 --> 00:08:24,319 and teaching and so the new message 243 00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:26,000 delivers 244 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:28,319 quite a preparation and the teaching and 245 00:08:33,110 --> 00:08:30,160 instruction regarding how we can 246 00:08:35,829 --> 00:08:33,120 safely emerge into this universe of life 247 00:08:38,149 --> 00:08:35,839 a universe of powerful influences 248 00:08:41,589 --> 00:08:38,159 a universe of nature but on a much 249 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:41,599 grander scale than we can even imagine 250 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:45,120 and at the same time the new message 251 00:08:48,790 --> 00:08:47,040 spoke of the reality of contact 252 00:08:51,829 --> 00:08:48,800 happening now 253 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:51,839 and what this contact was was not just 254 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:53,680 visitation 255 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:56,720 intervention 256 00:09:00,150 --> 00:08:58,560 we're making first contact with those 257 00:09:00,710 --> 00:09:00,160 from the universe who've made the long 258 00:09:02,389 --> 00:09:00,720 journey 259 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:02,399 to earth because they want something 260 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:04,880 from us and what do they want 261 00:09:09,030 --> 00:09:06,800 that's a question many people i'm sure 262 00:09:12,070 --> 00:09:09,040 on your show have wondered 263 00:09:15,110 --> 00:09:12,080 and so what has occurred is uh 264 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:15,120 the allies of humanity a group of 265 00:09:20,230 --> 00:09:17,440 free worlds in the vicinity of the earth 266 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:20,240 in our local local region of space 267 00:09:23,590 --> 00:09:22,560 have have seen this intervention occur 268 00:09:26,230 --> 00:09:23,600 and have been called 269 00:09:28,630 --> 00:09:26,240 to send a group of observers to report 270 00:09:30,870 --> 00:09:28,640 to us on its activities 271 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:30,880 and the same higher power that brought 272 00:09:33,509 --> 00:09:32,720 the new message from god into the world 273 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:33,519 and that 274 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:35,440 moves in people around the world even 275 00:09:39,350 --> 00:09:37,200 right now 276 00:09:41,590 --> 00:09:39,360 also called the allies of humanity to be 277 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:41,600 here to give their testimony 278 00:09:45,430 --> 00:09:43,040 which only they could give being 279 00:09:49,190 --> 00:09:45,440 physical beings in our universe 280 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:49,200 and so in 1997 probably 281 00:09:54,949 --> 00:09:53,279 uh 15 years after the new message was 282 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:54,959 began to be received by marshall the 283 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:56,480 allies came with their first set of 284 00:09:59,750 --> 00:09:57,920 briefings 285 00:10:01,670 --> 00:09:59,760 how he receives this going back to your 286 00:10:05,030 --> 00:10:01,680 initial question 287 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:05,040 it is a communication delivered over a 288 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:06,800 spiritual channel 289 00:10:10,310 --> 00:10:08,880 without interference or the potential 290 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:10,320 for mechanical 291 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:13,279 or um yeah mechanical interference by 292 00:10:16,870 --> 00:10:13,839 any 293 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:16,880 describe it 294 00:10:20,230 --> 00:10:19,200 for marshall he enters a state of 295 00:10:23,509 --> 00:10:20,240 connection he 296 00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:23,519 the allies come into his space and 297 00:10:27,590 --> 00:10:25,279 the voice just flows right through them 298 00:10:29,509 --> 00:10:27,600 and their message is recorded 299 00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:29,519 and transcribed word for word and that's 300 00:10:34,150 --> 00:10:31,680 what you see in the 301 00:10:34,949 --> 00:10:34,160 and so um i've heard of the allies of 302 00:10:38,230 --> 00:10:34,959 humanity 303 00:10:41,269 --> 00:10:38,240 uh several years back and um 304 00:10:41,829 --> 00:10:41,279 it's it's uh quite a bit different than 305 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:41,839 the 306 00:10:49,269 --> 00:10:46,880 people won't want to convey and um 307 00:10:50,389 --> 00:10:49,279 it's it's all about you know love and 308 00:10:53,350 --> 00:10:50,399 light and 309 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:53,360 um you know let's all just kind of you 310 00:10:58,230 --> 00:10:55,680 know come together in peace and 311 00:10:59,269 --> 00:10:58,240 and all of that uh but uh i've had a 312 00:11:01,269 --> 00:10:59,279 feeling that 313 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:01,279 allies of humanity just has like a 314 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:02,640 little bit of a tone of just 315 00:11:07,670 --> 00:11:05,680 caution you know to not just be too 316 00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:07,680 free willy-nilly am i am i correct in 317 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:08,959 that assumption yeah 318 00:11:12,949 --> 00:11:11,920 no you are i mean the allies describe 319 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:12,959 contact 320 00:11:17,829 --> 00:11:16,079 as an event of nature it's 321 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:17,839 it's yes we are spiritual beings in a 322 00:11:21,430 --> 00:11:19,440 spiritual universe yes 323 00:11:22,870 --> 00:11:21,440 love is maybe the greatest power and we 324 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:22,880 must follow it but 325 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:24,880 this is an event of nature we're making 326 00:11:29,509 --> 00:11:27,120 contact with physical beings 327 00:11:30,630 --> 00:11:29,519 coming to our planet of origin 328 00:11:33,110 --> 00:11:30,640 undertaking 329 00:11:33,990 --> 00:11:33,120 numerous clandestine activities many of 330 00:11:37,269 --> 00:11:34,000 which if not 331 00:11:39,110 --> 00:11:37,279 all of which signal do not signal a 332 00:11:41,670 --> 00:11:39,120 beneficial intent let's just say that it 333 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:41,680 may signal a negative intent 334 00:11:45,750 --> 00:11:44,000 and so we need to engage with that very 335 00:11:48,150 --> 00:11:45,760 seriously and soberly 336 00:11:49,269 --> 00:11:48,160 and not confuse levels of reality you 337 00:11:51,509 --> 00:11:49,279 know spirituality 338 00:11:53,350 --> 00:11:51,519 physical reality this is an event of 339 00:11:54,470 --> 00:11:53,360 nature and when we go back into the 340 00:11:56,949 --> 00:11:54,480 history of our world 341 00:11:58,150 --> 00:11:56,959 look at the native peoples north america 342 00:12:01,350 --> 00:11:58,160 south america 343 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:01,360 southeast asia japan elsewhere when they 344 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:02,880 made first contact 345 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:05,360 with other peoples it was often with 346 00:12:09,590 --> 00:12:07,040 resource explorers 347 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:09,600 predatory groups of individuals coming 348 00:12:13,590 --> 00:12:11,440 to take something that the natives had 349 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:13,600 or to exploit something 350 00:12:17,509 --> 00:12:16,480 if possible and so uh that is borne out 351 00:12:20,389 --> 00:12:17,519 time and time again 352 00:12:21,750 --> 00:12:20,399 in our natural history or our human 353 00:12:24,069 --> 00:12:21,760 history i should say 354 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:24,079 so the allies counsel us to be very 355 00:12:28,870 --> 00:12:26,240 cautious as we step into the universe 356 00:12:30,949 --> 00:12:28,880 and not make big assumptions not expect 357 00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:30,959 salvation not expect the fulfillment of 358 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:33,120 our religious prophecies 359 00:12:37,030 --> 00:12:34,880 but to start with really the first 360 00:12:39,430 --> 00:12:37,040 question which is we're being visited 361 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:39,440 by physical beings with technological 362 00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:41,600 powers far beyond our own 363 00:12:45,829 --> 00:12:43,920 who are they what are they doing what do 364 00:12:47,509 --> 00:12:45,839 they want 365 00:12:50,150 --> 00:12:47,519 those are the first questions and so 366 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:50,160 they they advise us to start there 367 00:12:53,509 --> 00:12:52,320 but what you're saying adnan and i agree 368 00:12:56,230 --> 00:12:53,519 is you know 369 00:12:57,190 --> 00:12:56,240 in this field of study and inquiry 370 00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:57,200 people jump to 371 00:13:01,509 --> 00:12:59,760 wild associations with with 372 00:13:03,190 --> 00:13:01,519 extraterrestrial life 373 00:13:04,389 --> 00:13:03,200 you know saying they're here to save us 374 00:13:05,750 --> 00:13:04,399 you know they're enlightened they 375 00:13:08,069 --> 00:13:05,760 transcended the need for 376 00:13:09,269 --> 00:13:08,079 conflict you know just so many 377 00:13:11,590 --> 00:13:09,279 assumptions 378 00:13:13,990 --> 00:13:11,600 that are quite dangerous if we allow 379 00:13:16,150 --> 00:13:14,000 them to to take us down the road 380 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:16,160 of contact um do they reveal 381 00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:17,360 specifically 382 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:20,320 uh which which different groups have 383 00:13:24,310 --> 00:13:21,040 more of that 384 00:13:25,910 --> 00:13:24,320 um illiterate and uh also than at this 385 00:13:26,710 --> 00:13:25,920 on the other side of the coin which 386 00:13:29,190 --> 00:13:26,720 groups 387 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:29,200 you know are more uh here to interact 388 00:13:34,870 --> 00:13:30,959 with us on a peaceful level 389 00:13:36,949 --> 00:13:34,880 yeah well here's what the allies say um 390 00:13:38,230 --> 00:13:36,959 the great war world war ii the last 391 00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:38,240 great global conflict 392 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:39,760 along with the detonation of nuclear 393 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:41,360 weapons 394 00:13:44,949 --> 00:13:42,880 and the destruction of our natural 395 00:13:45,509 --> 00:13:44,959 environment in the decades to follow 396 00:13:48,550 --> 00:13:45,519 were the 397 00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:48,560 precipitating events that brought a new 398 00:13:52,069 --> 00:13:48,880 set 399 00:13:54,710 --> 00:13:52,079 of forces to our shores before that 400 00:13:55,509 --> 00:13:54,720 yes there was ancient contact there were 401 00:13:58,310 --> 00:13:55,519 neighbors 402 00:14:00,550 --> 00:13:58,320 visiting to observe other races coming 403 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:00,560 to maybe take some biological resources 404 00:14:05,269 --> 00:14:02,240 for experimentation 405 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:05,279 efforts to educate the locals and and 406 00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:08,000 a variety of you know scattered attempts 407 00:14:11,990 --> 00:14:09,600 to engage with humanity 408 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:12,000 but nothing global and pervasive an 409 00:14:15,829 --> 00:14:13,120 effort to literally 410 00:14:18,389 --> 00:14:15,839 shift the direction of the whole planet 411 00:14:22,550 --> 00:14:18,399 and its destiny in space 412 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:22,560 and so with with nuclear war 413 00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:24,240 or the risk of nuclear war and the 414 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:25,680 destruction of our environment 415 00:14:31,030 --> 00:14:28,560 a new set of forces arrived the allies 416 00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:31,040 of humanity call these the collectives 417 00:14:38,310 --> 00:14:34,560 and these are multi-racial economic 418 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:38,320 forces who are here to 419 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:41,040 take advantage of a beautiful planet 420 00:14:44,230 --> 00:14:42,000 earth abundant 421 00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:44,240 rich in biological resources rare in the 422 00:14:49,110 --> 00:14:45,839 universe 423 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:49,120 before the native peoples destroy it 424 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:52,480 and um and so they're here to to take 425 00:14:56,389 --> 00:14:53,279 what they can 426 00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:56,399 and to bring humanity and this planet 427 00:15:00,790 --> 00:14:58,399 into their sphere of influence 428 00:15:01,910 --> 00:15:00,800 protect the planet but for their uses 429 00:15:05,110 --> 00:15:01,920 and put us to work 430 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:05,120 for those ends so that's who's here 431 00:15:08,790 --> 00:15:08,320 now the allies do say that yes there are 432 00:15:11,110 --> 00:15:08,800 other 433 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:11,120 friendly races in our vicinity of space 434 00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:13,279 we do have neighbors who are neutral 435 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:16,399 but these groups have pulled out of the 436 00:15:20,230 --> 00:15:16,880 planet 437 00:15:22,870 --> 00:15:20,240 environment so that we could have an 438 00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:22,880 unambiguous situation to respond to 439 00:15:27,509 --> 00:15:26,000 otherwise there's numerous races here 440 00:15:29,110 --> 00:15:27,519 numerous accounts about who they what 441 00:15:31,590 --> 00:15:29,120 they look like where star their 442 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:31,600 star system they're from nobody knows 443 00:15:36,629 --> 00:15:32,959 what's up what's down 444 00:15:38,150 --> 00:15:36,639 i mean in essence you know our friends 445 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:38,160 know that they can't just step in and 446 00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:39,680 militarily protect us 447 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:41,279 we have to protect ourselves we're the 448 00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:43,440 natives of this world 449 00:15:48,550 --> 00:15:46,160 and so they have pulled out largely so 450 00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:48,560 that humanity could have an unambiguous 451 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:51,920 situation and deal with that 452 00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:54,480 and then that would hopefully prepare us 453 00:16:00,550 --> 00:15:57,199 for beneficial contact down the road 454 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,560 so um you know a lot of times when um 455 00:16:04,629 --> 00:16:02,720 you know just just taking the human 456 00:16:05,269 --> 00:16:04,639 point of view and our imagination 457 00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:05,279 regarding 458 00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:07,279 first contact a lot of times it's 459 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:09,600 betrayed that these different 460 00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:13,600 races have advanced technology that um 461 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:16,320 sometimes we can't even match and uh and 462 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:17,920 of course with independence day 463 00:16:22,310 --> 00:16:20,240 if we do some adult you know adaptation 464 00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:22,320 we can 465 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:24,000 when you said to for us to protect 466 00:16:28,389 --> 00:16:25,360 ourselves uh 467 00:16:28,870 --> 00:16:28,399 would would that be even a chance on our 468 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:28,880 end 469 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:31,360 or is it are we talking about some 470 00:16:35,829 --> 00:16:33,680 technology that was provided by 471 00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:35,839 some of the good good guys to kind of 472 00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:36,720 help us out 473 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:38,720 in case it's needed well the allies of 474 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:40,560 humanity say that technology is not 475 00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:42,560 what's going to protect us 476 00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:45,600 the collectives are so far beyond us 477 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:46,800 technologically 478 00:16:50,230 --> 00:16:49,279 have they given things or sold things to 479 00:16:51,509 --> 00:16:50,240 certain entities 480 00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:51,519 and certain governments i'm sure they 481 00:16:55,829 --> 00:16:53,600 have those are not 482 00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:55,839 game-changing pieces of technology 483 00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:57,279 regarding intervention 484 00:17:00,870 --> 00:16:59,360 you know those might be trinkets from 485 00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:00,880 space you know very 486 00:17:04,949 --> 00:17:03,040 very profitable for us here but not that 487 00:17:07,270 --> 00:17:04,959 important to them up there 488 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:07,280 so there's no technology that the 489 00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:09,360 intervention has given that the allies 490 00:17:13,350 --> 00:17:11,039 of humanity can give or that we can 491 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:13,360 develop that can offset or 492 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:16,079 repel this intervention in our world 493 00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:17,280 what the allies 494 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:21,280 call for us to do is to become aware 495 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:23,679 that contact is underway and that it is 496 00:17:28,549 --> 00:17:26,480 with forces of a negative intent 497 00:17:29,590 --> 00:17:28,559 who are here for the resources of this 498 00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:29,600 world 499 00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:33,840 position which they do talk about 500 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:36,640 and then to um to bring us into their 501 00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:39,520 sphere of influence and their network 502 00:17:43,430 --> 00:17:42,720 so to speak become aware of that second 503 00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:43,440 to become 504 00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:46,559 educated about the local environment of 505 00:17:51,430 --> 00:17:48,480 space in which our world exists 506 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:51,440 how races function how trade travel and 507 00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:52,960 conflict occur 508 00:17:57,669 --> 00:17:54,720 all of which is fully revealed in the 509 00:18:01,510 --> 00:17:57,679 allies briefings and in the new message 510 00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:01,520 and then with that education take action 511 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:03,120 and now we can talk about what would 512 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:04,960 that action be that we could 513 00:18:09,830 --> 00:18:07,120 effectively do to to repel this 514 00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:12,710 yeah well what the allies of humanity 515 00:18:16,230 --> 00:18:14,640 you know say is it's it's not picking up 516 00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,240 arms it's not 517 00:18:19,430 --> 00:18:18,480 maybe what we think it is and that's 518 00:18:20,630 --> 00:18:19,440 because of the nature of the 519 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:20,640 intervention itself 520 00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:22,720 the intervention is not a military force 521 00:18:25,990 --> 00:18:24,559 it's not an invasion that we can see 522 00:18:28,549 --> 00:18:26,000 with our eyes 523 00:18:30,230 --> 00:18:28,559 it is a pervasive form of influence 524 00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:30,240 being cast upon us 525 00:18:34,789 --> 00:18:32,960 in the mental environment in in the 526 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:34,799 psychological space 527 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:36,640 and so it's a the intervention is a 528 00:18:40,549 --> 00:18:37,919 small group 529 00:18:41,669 --> 00:18:40,559 um with the power to influence thought 530 00:18:44,150 --> 00:18:41,679 and emotion 531 00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:44,160 to to steer people's will and intention 532 00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:46,400 and their actions that stem from that 533 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:48,320 and so what the allies call for is for 534 00:18:52,710 --> 00:18:50,720 us to connect to the spiritual 535 00:18:54,470 --> 00:18:52,720 intelligence that we all carry 536 00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,480 that we've all felt at various times in 537 00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:57,120 our lives that can guide us 538 00:19:00,950 --> 00:18:58,880 to what we specifically need to do 539 00:19:02,630 --> 00:19:00,960 personally 540 00:19:04,470 --> 00:19:02,640 in our lives in general but also in 541 00:19:07,190 --> 00:19:04,480 response to the intervention 542 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:07,200 but also the spiritual mind that can 543 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:07,919 protect 544 00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:11,440 us mentally because this is the one part 545 00:19:16,270 --> 00:19:13,440 of us that cannot be manipulated 546 00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:16,280 by any force even a force with 547 00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:18,559 unbelievable or unreal 548 00:19:22,470 --> 00:19:21,840 uh powers to affect thought by other 549 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:22,480 beings 550 00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,520 so the new message calls this spiritual 551 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:27,039 force knowledge 552 00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:28,720 and the allies of humanity refer to this 553 00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:30,559 as well it's the universal spiritual 554 00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:33,039 mind that all sentient life has 555 00:19:38,150 --> 00:19:35,360 and it is by rooting ourselves in that 556 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:38,160 that our minds can be protected that we 557 00:19:41,190 --> 00:19:39,760 can educate ourselves and take 558 00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:41,200 intelligent action which 559 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:44,480 most certainly must extend into becoming 560 00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:46,640 vocal advocates for human freedom 561 00:19:51,750 --> 00:19:49,280 for the preservation of the environment 562 00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:51,760 for not subjugating to any power 563 00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:55,280 foreign power and to and to deny 564 00:20:01,669 --> 00:19:58,720 and resist all their promises of peace 565 00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:01,679 technology salvation that they're making 566 00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:03,039 around the world and all 567 00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,720 countries all traditions the 568 00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:06,159 intervention has their tentacles 569 00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:07,280 everywhere 570 00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:10,720 and so the work to repel that 571 00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:12,880 must go on everywhere but it has to be 572 00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:14,400 rooted in something 573 00:20:19,510 --> 00:20:17,679 that's not just fear or anger 574 00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:19,520 just very reactive it has to be rooted 575 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:20,720 in something that is 576 00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:22,960 deep and powerful and confident and 577 00:20:26,149 --> 00:20:24,400 innately human 578 00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:26,159 that can actually help us win the long 579 00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:27,840 game here because we can win the short 580 00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:29,760 we can try to win the short game 581 00:20:33,110 --> 00:20:31,919 but we're dealing with something of 582 00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:33,120 orders beyond 583 00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:35,039 in terms of their their technological 584 00:20:39,190 --> 00:20:37,200 power and their mental power 585 00:20:41,029 --> 00:20:39,200 and this won't be the last intervention 586 00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:41,039 even if we repel this one there will be 587 00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:41,760 more 588 00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,320 i mean this is it's just the nons it's 589 00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:46,559 the unstoppable process 590 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:50,240 that begins when a young world steps out 591 00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:52,640 into the cosmos makes first contact 592 00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:53,679 which becomes second 593 00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,760 third and fourth and fifth contact so 594 00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:57,679 more intervention is coming so we need 595 00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:00,400 something to help us win the long game 596 00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:02,720 and the power of spirit look at what it 597 00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:03,520 does already 598 00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,280 in the world all over the world i mean i 599 00:21:08,789 --> 00:21:07,280 think we all know it's not just a 600 00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:08,799 philosophy 601 00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:11,520 or a s or a you know a plan or a 602 00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:14,159 playbook of strategic actions 603 00:21:17,350 --> 00:21:15,919 that's going to fix the climate crisis 604 00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:17,360 it's going to get us out of the covid 605 00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:18,400 crisis 606 00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:19,919 you know that's going to heal the 607 00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:22,559 divisions between nations in this world 608 00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:25,039 that's going to temper the problem of 609 00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:26,880 religious extremism in the world i mean 610 00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,559 it's got to be something more 611 00:21:32,149 --> 00:21:31,039 and deeper and that's that's why the 612 00:21:33,669 --> 00:21:32,159 allies 613 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:33,679 have have given what they have and 614 00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:35,200 that's why the new message from god is 615 00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:36,320 in the world 616 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,440 it takes a powerful medicine uh from a 617 00:21:46,950 --> 00:21:41,600 higher power to cure 618 00:21:48,230 --> 00:21:46,960 an illness like this well that brings me 619 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:48,240 i'm sorry to interrupt i was just going 620 00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:50,320 to say that brings me to two questions 621 00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:53,120 i figured i'll ask this one first so 622 00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:54,080 would you 623 00:21:59,669 --> 00:21:57,520 i guess are you saying that if we simply 624 00:22:01,750 --> 00:21:59,679 would kind of stand our own ground and 625 00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:01,760 say this is not what we wish as a 626 00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:02,640 society 627 00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:05,200 that they would um respect that and not 628 00:22:10,070 --> 00:22:07,760 necessarily take physical force 629 00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:10,080 that's well um they may not respect it i 630 00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:11,200 don't think they i don't think they 631 00:22:14,549 --> 00:22:12,720 respect us 632 00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:14,559 the allies have said that those visiting 633 00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:16,320 our world now view us 634 00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:20,080 like we view cattle okay 635 00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:24,000 not not equal beings at all and 636 00:22:28,070 --> 00:22:26,400 only interest only interested in us if 637 00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:28,080 we're useful to them so we are a 638 00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:29,760 resource to them so 639 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,440 it's a strange thing to be dealing with 640 00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:33,440 beings that that have 641 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:36,080 don't value our basic right to exist 642 00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:38,000 that don't value our intelligence our 643 00:22:43,590 --> 00:22:40,240 individuality it's very strange 644 00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,600 but that's what it is um 645 00:22:46,630 --> 00:22:45,200 but going back to your question now then 646 00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:46,640 i'm sorry i forgot what it was i was 647 00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,440 just gonna say 648 00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:49,600 regarding um because i know you were 649 00:22:52,710 --> 00:22:51,760 saying they don't they don't necessarily 650 00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:52,720 respect us 651 00:22:55,830 --> 00:22:54,559 but because i was saying would they 652 00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:55,840 respect our 653 00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:57,760 decision to not want to interact with 654 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:00,559 them and not take any physical action 655 00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:02,320 since obviously we wouldn't be able to 656 00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:03,679 to resist that 657 00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:06,000 right yeah well they are a small force 658 00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:07,600 and they need our 659 00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:09,360 acceptance and our part and our 660 00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:11,440 participation are willing participation 661 00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,240 so if we become 662 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,120 unwilling then we are not fertile ground 663 00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,280 for what they're trying to achieve 664 00:23:21,430 --> 00:23:19,679 so um they wouldn't have the power to 665 00:23:22,310 --> 00:23:21,440 retaliate they wouldn't have the power 666 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,320 to cause 667 00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:24,720 destruction as a result of our rejection 668 00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:26,080 of their presence here 669 00:23:30,070 --> 00:23:28,640 they would have to retreat and so part 670 00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:30,080 of what they're trying to engender is 671 00:23:35,270 --> 00:23:30,559 our 672 00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:35,280 they have a right to be here 673 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,080 and because if we want them here then 674 00:23:41,669 --> 00:23:40,080 all avenues open to them if we do not 675 00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:41,679 want them here all avenues start to 676 00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:43,200 close for them 677 00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:46,400 add to this that the allies um say that 678 00:23:51,029 --> 00:23:47,840 in our local region of space 679 00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:51,039 conquest is not allowed that the 680 00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,520 native race has to be willing for those 681 00:23:56,549 --> 00:23:55,120 visiting to be there they have to be 682 00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:56,559 participants 683 00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:58,960 and so if we vocally reject their 684 00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:59,919 presence here 685 00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,919 if we say we you know this what's 686 00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:03,200 happening 687 00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:06,240 is not okay human abductions are not 688 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:06,640 okay 689 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:09,760 tinkering with our 690 00:24:13,110 --> 00:24:11,760 militaries and and making secret 691 00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:13,120 agreements with certain governments is 692 00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:13,919 not okay 693 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:16,000 if we start speaking out against that 694 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:17,760 then channels begin to close for them 695 00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:19,840 rapidly and in time if enough people 696 00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:20,640 speak up 697 00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:22,320 there are forces beyond our world who 698 00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:24,159 will put stopped intervention 699 00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:26,799 uh completely yeah that was my my second 700 00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:28,559 question then regarding 701 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:30,240 what kind of influence are we talking 702 00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:32,400 about so 703 00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:34,000 forgive me i don't wish to make this 704 00:24:38,710 --> 00:24:35,520 political and 705 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:38,720 um this is just you know my opinion but 706 00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:39,200 having 707 00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:41,919 been in the us for a while and being you 708 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:43,440 know involved with a lot of different 709 00:24:46,710 --> 00:24:44,400 things 710 00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:46,720 for me a lot of times the way i go about 711 00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,799 finding truth is first i have this 712 00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:51,360 um gut feeling and then i follow it up 713 00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:52,480 with research 714 00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,679 and so um it just seems 715 00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:57,600 there's a lot going on like almost like 716 00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:00,240 a very very much like a script 717 00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:02,400 that's been written out that everyone is 718 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,159 following and just in the past couple of 719 00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:05,760 years regarding covet and all these 720 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:06,640 other things 721 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,919 and so would something like that be 722 00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:12,000 kind of the work of those hidden forces 723 00:25:16,630 --> 00:25:14,159 or you know can you maybe speak on that 724 00:25:18,070 --> 00:25:16,640 oh sure well they have a script for sure 725 00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:18,080 uh for us to follow 726 00:25:22,870 --> 00:25:21,120 and they're trying to find their 727 00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:22,880 supporters and apologists 728 00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:26,000 um who will follow that script and so 729 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:29,279 their their their advocating for 730 00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:32,400 our acquiescence to higher power 731 00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,159 whatever that is even if it's god 732 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:36,480 even if it's an ancient prophet or 733 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,679 messiah 734 00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:39,360 or if it's extraterrestrial they're 735 00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:41,520 advocating for us to engage in conflict 736 00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:42,640 with one another 737 00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:45,120 to make one another the problem so that 738 00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:48,080 they can be the saving solution 739 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:50,240 they're trying to encourage people to 740 00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:51,760 remain distracted 741 00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:53,600 with their own preoccupations their own 742 00:25:56,789 --> 00:25:54,960 lives their own interests their own 743 00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:56,799 happiness 744 00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,960 and they are directly influencing those 745 00:26:02,630 --> 00:26:00,880 thoughts and emotions that support that 746 00:26:04,630 --> 00:26:02,640 they have what the allies call the 747 00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:04,640 pacification program 748 00:26:09,269 --> 00:26:08,000 which is um a program projected in the 749 00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:09,279 mental environment 750 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:11,279 people being influenced to think certain 751 00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:13,120 things to respond certain ways 752 00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:15,600 especially in large population centers 753 00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:19,039 in the world and that is 754 00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,480 well underway and has been for some 755 00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:22,480 decades 756 00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,559 more recent events i can't say you know 757 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:26,960 i can't say how covid plays in 758 00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,840 to what the intervention is doing uh my 759 00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:31,360 sense is that this is a 760 00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,400 a naturally emerging virus 761 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:36,400 the risk of pandemic has been around for 762 00:26:40,470 --> 00:26:38,640 a long time we've had we have pandemics 763 00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:40,480 we have had one 764 00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:43,120 you know you know frequently in the last 765 00:26:46,149 --> 00:26:45,200 10 20 30 years they just haven't been 766 00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:46,159 this 767 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:49,279 potent and widespread um the 768 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:51,120 intervention will use that they'll use 769 00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:51,760 everything 770 00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,360 and anything and and so anything 771 00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:57,120 we present to them as a source of 772 00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:58,640 conflict or disagreement 773 00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:01,200 disassociation from one another distrust 774 00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:02,559 of one another in our leadership 775 00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:03,520 institutions 776 00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:05,120 they'll use it all they'll use our 777 00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:06,799 religious beliefs our belief in the 778 00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:07,360 return 779 00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:10,480 of jesus christ the belief in 780 00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,080 that my religion should be the world's 781 00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:14,240 religion i mean the belief 782 00:27:18,070 --> 00:27:16,559 that um that we are higher beings and 783 00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:18,080 that love is what matters and we need to 784 00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,120 be loving with all 785 00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:21,200 they'll use all of it and they'll twist 786 00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:22,799 all of it and there's a lot of that 787 00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:24,159 going on and so when you 788 00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:26,000 when you look into different you know 789 00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:27,200 groups and circles 790 00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:30,320 on earth there is a strange distortion 791 00:27:34,149 --> 00:27:32,840 that you find in their messaging it's 792 00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:34,159 pacifying 793 00:27:38,789 --> 00:27:36,799 it's acquiescing it takes power away 794 00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:38,799 from the individual 795 00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:41,039 okay it takes the prerogative for action 796 00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:42,960 and personal work away 797 00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:46,240 and just says believe uh it tries to 798 00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:48,480 stamp you with a label you know or a 799 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:50,240 hashtag or something to say 800 00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:53,600 that's who you are and so individual 801 00:27:58,549 --> 00:27:55,520 power and responsibility seems to be 802 00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:58,559 draining out of the human family 803 00:28:02,630 --> 00:28:00,640 and that by the way is the channel by 804 00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:02,640 which knowledge the spiritual power 805 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:04,320 works through lives i mean that's that's 806 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,760 what that's what 807 00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:07,440 enables a great doctor to be a great 808 00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,000 doctor is their individual 809 00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:12,159 responsibility and authority and take 810 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:14,320 that into every field of life 811 00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:17,039 so yes i would say there's a script um 812 00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:18,799 more and more people are following it i 813 00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:19,200 can't 814 00:28:24,149 --> 00:28:22,240 myself say what pop what political party 815 00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:24,159 or what world event plays into that 816 00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:26,960 uh but the intervention has their has 817 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:28,480 their fingers in many many many 818 00:28:31,190 --> 00:28:29,440 different places 819 00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:31,200 is there any information that you might 820 00:28:35,669 --> 00:28:33,120 have regarding this i call this 821 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:35,679 uh soft disclosure by government because 822 00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:36,559 i feel 823 00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:38,000 but not feel it's definitely without 824 00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:39,679 what i was able to read 825 00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:42,000 is that for the very first time they did 826 00:28:45,990 --> 00:28:42,840 not 827 00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:46,000 deny ufos they just basically said oh we 828 00:28:48,789 --> 00:28:47,600 just need more funding and better ways 829 00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:48,799 to collect data 830 00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:51,200 there was no denying like they used to 831 00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:53,120 what do you know anything about this or 832 00:28:57,750 --> 00:28:55,120 what this could possibly mean 833 00:28:58,470 --> 00:28:57,760 i have my own personal thoughts uh about 834 00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,480 it 835 00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,960 um i'm sure we're all disappointed right 836 00:29:05,029 --> 00:29:02,640 we wanted something more 837 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:05,039 and and it was it was just another we 838 00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:05,760 don't know 839 00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:08,480 but that's pretty meaningful you know 840 00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:10,080 it's almost admission by 841 00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:13,600 by um admitting that a phenomenon exists 842 00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,760 and we don't know what it is therefore 843 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:17,279 right therefore we need to research it 844 00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:18,559 more and so forth of course the 845 00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:19,840 government this government in this 846 00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:21,760 country has been involved 847 00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:24,559 uh with the intervention either support 848 00:29:27,510 --> 00:29:27,039 both supporting and resisting at various 849 00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:27,520 times 850 00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:31,120 for decades so it's a bit fallacious for 851 00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:32,240 them to come out and say 852 00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:34,960 there's 140 some odd cases and we need 853 00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,039 to look into it more 854 00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:39,039 i like the word you use which is soft 855 00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:40,159 disclosure 856 00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:46,080 like there is a plan here to 857 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:49,200 potentially acclimate people to this as 858 00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:50,320 a real 859 00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:53,840 phenomenon um and say yes it's real but 860 00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:54,799 not say more 861 00:29:57,830 --> 00:29:56,240 and then let people's wheels start 862 00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:57,840 spending let them start to 863 00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:59,600 create ideas that can then be shaped and 864 00:30:03,909 --> 00:30:01,919 steered um so i do i do 865 00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,919 sense the presence of disclosure and 866 00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:05,279 what's happened recently with these 867 00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:06,840 reports 868 00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:10,240 um i i've advocated in the past 869 00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,520 don't wait around for the government to 870 00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:13,600 disclose what they know uh they're not 871 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:14,399 going to 872 00:30:18,950 --> 00:30:18,240 they want you to know about what they 873 00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:18,960 know 874 00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:21,760 to shape a narrative that they want in 875 00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:22,000 your 876 00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:24,000 mind and in the public's consciousness 877 00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,360 so um 878 00:30:28,789 --> 00:30:27,440 i feel the allies are providing the 879 00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:28,799 disclosure we really need which is the 880 00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:30,559 disclosure of the alien presence and 881 00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:32,240 their intent 882 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:34,640 instead of our human governments and 883 00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:35,440 their intent 884 00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:37,679 because the intervention is the big 885 00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:40,240 conspiracy behind other conspiracies 886 00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:42,080 there are many true authentic 887 00:30:46,710 --> 00:30:43,840 conspiracies that work in the world 888 00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:46,720 but the big one the mother of them all 889 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,320 is the presence of 890 00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:50,720 powerful extraterrestrial forces in our 891 00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:52,880 world who are here with an agenda 892 00:30:58,470 --> 00:30:56,000 working through governments religions 893 00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:58,480 commercial institutions who are then 894 00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:00,080 spurring on their own 895 00:31:03,669 --> 00:31:02,000 you know attempts to capitalize on this 896 00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:03,679 perhaps or to work with the alien 897 00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,559 presence 898 00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:06,799 so what we need is the disclosure of the 899 00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,559 et presence 900 00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:10,559 who are they what are they doing what do 901 00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:12,159 they attend what is their endgame what 902 00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,760 are they attempting to achieve 903 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:16,159 that's the conversation that the e.t 904 00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,320 presence does not want us to have 905 00:31:21,509 --> 00:31:20,559 that's the forbidden conversation right 906 00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:21,519 there 907 00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:24,559 it's all being steered now towards you 908 00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:25,120 know 909 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,440 conspiracy about human government and 910 00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:29,440 institutions distrusting 911 00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,320 essentially our leaders and one another 912 00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:34,640 and so i'm very wary of getting too deep 913 00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:35,039 into 914 00:31:38,630 --> 00:31:38,080 all of that knowing that behind all of 915 00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:38,640 that 916 00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,240 is the real actor and 917 00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:44,000 we can we can pick fights with one 918 00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:46,080 another till till the cows come home 919 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,200 but there is an invader in our world 920 00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:53,440 or put more intimately there is an 921 00:31:58,230 --> 00:31:55,600 intruder in your house 922 00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:58,240 it is it's 10 p.m the front door is open 923 00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:59,519 and there's somebody in your house and 924 00:32:02,389 --> 00:32:00,240 your kids 925 00:32:03,990 --> 00:32:02,399 are are trying to go to bed down the 926 00:32:06,230 --> 00:32:04,000 hall two doors down 927 00:32:07,750 --> 00:32:06,240 and you're trying to go to bed upstairs 928 00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:07,760 and something's telling you something's 929 00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:09,279 not right here 930 00:32:12,789 --> 00:32:11,120 and that's that's the reality of an 931 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:12,799 intruder in the house 932 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:14,559 so until we deal with the intruder i'm 933 00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:15,840 not sure i want to 934 00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:18,559 you know pick fights and and get into 935 00:32:21,190 --> 00:32:19,679 all of that other stuff 936 00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:21,200 um because i don't think we can resolve 937 00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:23,360 it so i kind of have a um 938 00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:26,000 a two two part again regarding the you 939 00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:26,799 know 940 00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:28,880 the because it's so many things you 941 00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:29,840 bring up that 942 00:32:33,669 --> 00:32:32,480 kind of always makes you know spurs so 943 00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:33,679 many other questions to go 944 00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,360 into so would so just to cover them so i 945 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:38,960 don't forget that myself 946 00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:41,760 so first part would would uh basically 947 00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:42,559 then be 948 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:45,679 for most people than to get in tune 949 00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:48,720 with with who we are to kind of go down 950 00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:50,799 that route to get in touch with this 951 00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:53,200 inner voice like your dad has in order 952 00:32:59,029 --> 00:32:55,679 to receive more accurate information 953 00:32:59,750 --> 00:32:59,039 and then two most people have not even 954 00:33:02,950 --> 00:32:59,760 had any 955 00:33:04,630 --> 00:33:02,960 contacts i mean as in my experience as 956 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:04,640 much information as we have out there 957 00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:06,640 and as much as you've talked about and 958 00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:09,440 i've all covered you know in the show uh 959 00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:11,120 the vast majority of people still 960 00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:14,000 are not into this very much at all and 961 00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:14,480 so 962 00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:20,880 their need to fight is um would be kind 963 00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,559 of very difficult and counterproductive 964 00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:24,000 trying to convince everyone 965 00:33:30,149 --> 00:33:27,679 so would the first defensive actions be 966 00:33:31,830 --> 00:33:30,159 of to kind of be watching what's coming 967 00:33:34,710 --> 00:33:31,840 down from authority 968 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:34,720 to then to realize this is also then in 969 00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:36,320 this greater plan that 970 00:33:41,509 --> 00:33:39,440 eventually needs to be resisted or maybe 971 00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:41,519 scrutinized more do you understand what 972 00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:42,960 i'm trying to get get at 973 00:33:47,269 --> 00:33:45,360 i i think i do yeah let's put the the 974 00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:47,279 tapping into our own consciousness or 975 00:33:49,509 --> 00:33:47,840 knowledge 976 00:33:51,990 --> 00:33:49,519 at the end of the conversation super 977 00:33:53,509 --> 00:33:52,000 important but it's not the first step i 978 00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:53,519 mean the first step 979 00:33:56,710 --> 00:33:55,919 is to alert as many people as possible 980 00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:56,720 to the fact 981 00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:59,919 that we are being visited and to root 982 00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:00,880 that 983 00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:03,120 revelation for them in the first 984 00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:04,799 question which is well who's here 985 00:34:08,790 --> 00:34:06,799 what are they doing here and what are 986 00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:08,800 the you know what do they want 987 00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,679 versus people leaping to wild 988 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:13,520 conclusions about spiritual 989 00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:15,280 you know spiritual fulfillment and 990 00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:18,159 angels and all of this other stuff 991 00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:21,280 uh a lot of people need to know 992 00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:23,359 contact is underway and they need to be 993 00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,800 asking 994 00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:27,359 intelligent rational questions that are 995 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,240 rooted in 996 00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:30,240 in you know the reality of a natural 997 00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,919 event taking place 998 00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:33,679 and that's already happening you know i 999 00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:35,200 just saw recently 1000 00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:36,480 that just under fifty percent of 1001 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:38,079 americans believe that we've already 1002 00:34:41,349 --> 00:34:39,200 been visited 1003 00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:41,359 uh climbs over sixty percent in russia 1004 00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,399 and china 1005 00:34:46,069 --> 00:34:44,399 uh it's well over fifty percent in many 1006 00:34:47,190 --> 00:34:46,079 countries around the world so that's a 1007 00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:47,200 lot of people 1008 00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:50,399 already feel certain that we've been 1009 00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,280 visited 1010 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:53,040 have they asked the first question 1011 00:34:59,270 --> 00:34:55,679 though and then the second question 1012 00:35:02,630 --> 00:34:59,280 or are they are they just you know 1013 00:35:05,670 --> 00:35:02,640 stuffing it away because it's so taboo 1014 00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:05,680 or are they diving in to some of these 1015 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,560 really wild you know conclusions and and 1016 00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:10,160 spiritual teachings that are out there 1017 00:35:14,790 --> 00:35:13,119 regarding this so public education is i 1018 00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:14,800 think is the key it's the first starting 1019 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:15,839 point 1020 00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:17,200 and we need to start thinking like the 1021 00:35:21,829 --> 00:35:19,760 native peoples of this world 1022 00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,839 and stop treating contact as an 1023 00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:23,680 adventure in consciousness 1024 00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:26,480 you know or as the next really wild out 1025 00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:27,119 there 1026 00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:31,119 you know next level event spiritually 1027 00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,200 uh so that's that's where it all begins 1028 00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:35,599 i think uh it's it's public 1029 00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:37,599 it's alerting people in the public and 1030 00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:39,440 it's educating them 1031 00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:41,680 and it's starting to build a groundswell 1032 00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:42,960 of kind of 1033 00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,480 basic rational response 1034 00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,320 to this enormous event that's taking 1035 00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,720 place did i answer your question there 1036 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:52,400 yes now i was just going to say 1037 00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:53,760 regarding you know 1038 00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:56,079 um i guess i guess yeah definitely 1039 00:35:58,550 --> 00:35:57,599 because then that would be the first 1040 00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:58,560 part to 1041 00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,000 first make them aware then um instead 1042 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:04,240 because my idea with with almost 1043 00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:05,440 anything in life is 1044 00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:08,320 i had my own drive uh and and will and 1045 00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:09,839 want to understand 1046 00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:12,560 so um then i kind of took the steps 1047 00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,599 towards that 1048 00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:15,280 and uh whatever else happened to me in 1049 00:36:20,150 --> 00:36:17,280 my life and my experiences so 1050 00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:20,160 um i but i don't i've never felt like 1051 00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:20,640 hey 1052 00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:22,160 you sit down i need to tell you 1053 00:36:25,910 --> 00:36:24,079 something you know and so 1054 00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,920 it's something that even to this day i 1055 00:36:30,550 --> 00:36:27,839 don't i don't wish to do it's like 1056 00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:30,560 it's almost like when the time comes i'm 1057 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,280 here for you 1058 00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:33,200 to let you know all that i know but you 1059 00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,040 know i don't i don't want to kind of be 1060 00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:37,520 this ufo door-to-door salesman if that 1061 00:36:39,910 --> 00:36:38,400 makes sense 1062 00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:39,920 you know because it's you know but i 1063 00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:41,520 figured by having information 1064 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,520 such as this interview and all of that 1065 00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:45,040 just available online 1066 00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:47,119 that those that are searching will 1067 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:48,320 eventually find it 1068 00:36:51,750 --> 00:36:51,280 you know and um um are you suggesting a 1069 00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:51,760 more 1070 00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:54,960 hands-on approach or what you know 1071 00:36:58,150 --> 00:36:57,359 what where do you stand regarding that 1072 00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:58,160 yeah um 1073 00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:59,760 i i get what you're saying and i i 1074 00:37:02,550 --> 00:37:01,440 definitely feel you on that it is 1075 00:37:05,109 --> 00:37:02,560 awkward to be 1076 00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:05,119 in possession of knowing this and most 1077 00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:06,560 people don't and not only they don't 1078 00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:08,000 know they don't want to know 1079 00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,200 and they don't want to hear you tell 1080 00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:11,359 them and so that's right 1081 00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:13,359 that's that's hard you know being being 1082 00:37:17,670 --> 00:37:14,640 one of the first to know 1083 00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:17,680 is difficult um 1084 00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:18,960 and that's just something we have to 1085 00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:21,839 walk with and and share with people as 1086 00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:23,200 like you're saying when the time is 1087 00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,000 right 1088 00:37:29,030 --> 00:37:26,240 i do think the time is now to get pretty 1089 00:37:30,310 --> 00:37:29,040 hands-on with this 1090 00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:30,320 there are many people who are very 1091 00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:33,920 hands-on regarding government disclosure 1092 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:37,119 uh and and demanding that and i think 1093 00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:38,240 that's okay 1094 00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,640 because we we have we do deserve the 1095 00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:42,880 truth and we're not being given it 1096 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:45,920 i just i would advocate redirecting that 1097 00:37:49,430 --> 00:37:47,920 frustration and that need to know and 1098 00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:49,440 that need to reveal 1099 00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:52,560 upon the the alien presence itself 1100 00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:55,440 and realize that the whole space has 1101 00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:56,720 been poisoned 1102 00:38:03,430 --> 00:38:00,160 with all sorts of false narratives 1103 00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:03,440 false conspiracies a smoke screen of 1104 00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:07,119 of competing um messaging from the 1105 00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,079 intervention 1106 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,920 that's making it really hard if not 1107 00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:11,680 impossible for the average person to 1108 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:13,200 step into this 1109 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:15,680 and and come to see it for what it is 1110 00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:17,200 it's very hard 1111 00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:18,720 to see this for what it is even when 1112 00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:20,640 it's so basically simple 1113 00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:23,200 we're being we're making first contact 1114 00:38:26,230 --> 00:38:24,720 with extraterrestrial races they're here 1115 00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:26,240 for what they want 1116 00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:29,200 they have an agenda like how can that be 1117 00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:31,040 so hard well it is 1118 00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:32,720 that's a problem i think we need to get 1119 00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,640 very hands-on with that 1120 00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:37,280 and i think with the recent events uh 1121 00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:38,800 taking place in terms of 1122 00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:41,920 soft disclosure uh and public messaging 1123 00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:42,640 on this 1124 00:38:46,150 --> 00:38:44,839 a lot millions of people are coming into 1125 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,160 this 1126 00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:49,040 field of inquiry regarding contact who 1127 00:38:51,430 --> 00:38:49,760 weren't 1128 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:51,440 who maybe thought about it or had an 1129 00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:53,040 interest in it but now they 1130 00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:56,079 want to know what's going on but is it 1131 00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:57,680 possible for them to know what's going 1132 00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,560 on 1133 00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:00,320 right right well actually that brings me 1134 00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:02,000 back then to the first question that i 1135 00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,560 had 1136 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:04,320 because once they asked themselves the 1137 00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:05,920 first and second question 1138 00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:08,240 you know um they would then you know if 1139 00:39:12,310 --> 00:39:09,200 they proceed 1140 00:39:14,150 --> 00:39:12,320 they would you know be obviously looking 1141 00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:14,160 for information in the traditional way 1142 00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:15,920 that we've always had which is 1143 00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:18,800 books videos other resources and anyone 1144 00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:19,920 that's been into 1145 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,920 you know ufology for any given amount of 1146 00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:23,599 time they'll know that 1147 00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:25,599 you know there's thousands different 1148 00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:27,440 perspectives and so 1149 00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:30,160 um that's why i was asking initially in 1150 00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:30,960 order to 1151 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:33,920 to kind of discern between friend or foe 1152 00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:34,240 and 1153 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:37,760 you determine 1154 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,760 good information versus you know bad 1155 00:39:43,270 --> 00:39:41,040 information 1156 00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,280 would do would that be part of the steps 1157 00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:45,119 to get kind of get in touch 1158 00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:47,280 you know with your inner self and and 1159 00:39:49,750 --> 00:39:48,960 whatever else is out there that can 1160 00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:49,760 guide you 1161 00:39:52,790 --> 00:39:51,920 to know the the proper information the 1162 00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:52,800 right information 1163 00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:54,400 as opposed to something that's that's 1164 00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:56,240 receiving because i mean that's how we 1165 00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:57,920 kind of get getting ourselves in trouble 1166 00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,040 all the time now 1167 00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:00,880 you know we call that fake news you know 1168 00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:02,480 but 1169 00:40:05,990 --> 00:40:04,720 who's deciding what's fake news you know 1170 00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,000 that's the biggest issue 1171 00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:08,319 because um regarding a lot of 1172 00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,200 information 1173 00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:11,280 i can find two different sources and 1174 00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:13,040 each one of them blaming the other to be 1175 00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:14,640 fake news so it's very 1176 00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:16,160 very difficult to really get to the 1177 00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:17,839 bottom of anything and no wonder we're 1178 00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:20,240 kind of in this uproar right now 1179 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,000 totally and this is where knowledge 1180 00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:24,480 comes in i mean we can't we can't take 1181 00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:26,480 that out of the conversation 1182 00:40:29,829 --> 00:40:28,480 you said yourself that you you become 1183 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:29,839 aware of something and then you have a 1184 00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,440 gut feeling or a gut 1185 00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:33,920 sense and then you research you you dive 1186 00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,560 in 1187 00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:37,119 but it starts with that gut sense that's 1188 00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:38,400 knowledge 1189 00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:42,640 that is a spiritual mind an intelligence 1190 00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:45,440 that wants to steer you and me and 1191 00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:46,319 everyone 1192 00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:48,240 in a specific direction that's unique to 1193 00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:50,079 us so that we can play our part in life 1194 00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,359 and hopefully be of service to humankind 1195 00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:55,200 in a way that's relevant in the modern 1196 00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:58,319 world so a lot of people are feeling 1197 00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:00,960 knowledge when they think about contact 1198 00:41:05,910 --> 00:41:03,040 and when they look at this 1199 00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:05,920 but again it's so polluted so i think i 1200 00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:07,200 i think an emphasis 1201 00:41:12,150 --> 00:41:10,640 on um discerning the truth is really 1202 00:41:15,109 --> 00:41:12,160 important i have my own 1203 00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:15,119 rubric for discerning the truth in a 1204 00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:17,119 purported alien message 1205 00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:18,880 one of which is the allies of humanity 1206 00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:20,720 briefings there are many many many 1207 00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:21,440 others 1208 00:41:25,510 --> 00:41:23,200 but there are some proofs that you can 1209 00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:25,520 apply and these are reasonable 1210 00:41:30,790 --> 00:41:28,640 proofs um and requirements 1211 00:41:31,990 --> 00:41:30,800 that that something you know be at least 1212 00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:32,000 plausible 1213 00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:35,040 uh and then may be true but 1214 00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:37,680 at the basic level it's it's seeing and 1215 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,440 knowing at this at this deeper 1216 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,760 at this deeper level and can we do that 1217 00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:43,520 so i wanted to ask you 1218 00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:46,800 um with with the aspect of the 1219 00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:49,839 the allies of humanity do they say 1220 00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:51,920 that there's also other races that are 1221 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:53,280 not necessarily working 1222 00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:55,440 with them but have kind of a similar 1223 00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:56,560 goal or is 1224 00:42:01,270 --> 00:41:58,880 or are you saying the allies of humanity 1225 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:01,280 are the only ones that are reaching 1226 00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:03,520 reaching through to give the information 1227 00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,359 to say hey watch out there's more 1228 00:42:08,390 --> 00:42:07,839 going on than what you can see um sure 1229 00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:08,400 they don't 1230 00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:12,079 might be others who would try to reach 1231 00:42:16,630 --> 00:42:13,440 us for a beneficial 1232 00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:16,640 purpose they just say that they are 1233 00:42:21,030 --> 00:42:19,040 the association of they represent the 1234 00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:21,040 association of free worlds in our in our 1235 00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,560 immediate vicinity 1236 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:24,800 uh who were called to be the allies of 1237 00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:25,760 humanity 1238 00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,680 um could there be other messages in the 1239 00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:29,520 future absolutely there could 1240 00:42:34,470 --> 00:42:33,200 in the end all these races can do is 1241 00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:34,480 advise 1242 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:36,079 you know i mean we're talking about a 1243 00:42:41,829 --> 00:42:38,160 handful of individuals not an armada 1244 00:42:43,510 --> 00:42:41,839 of ships and craft there and so all they 1245 00:42:46,390 --> 00:42:43,520 can do is advise 1246 00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:46,400 and call upon us to claim the authority 1247 00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:48,240 to be the native peoples and to take the 1248 00:42:51,349 --> 00:42:50,160 action we have to take that in the end 1249 00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:51,359 is what must happen 1250 00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:54,319 how it happens who inspires it to happen 1251 00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:55,520 it's almost like well 1252 00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:58,000 it just needs to happen i think the 1253 00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,119 allies 1254 00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:01,520 themselves and their message is an 1255 00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:02,800 important part of that 1256 00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,920 is an important spark in that process of 1257 00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:08,079 waking up to the fact that you know 1258 00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:11,280 we are being discovered on a beautiful 1259 00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:12,000 planet that 1260 00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,680 is desired by others that we are 1261 00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:16,079 destroying in front of their eyes 1262 00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:17,440 and that they want and that they're here 1263 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:20,880 to take um that is the the fundamental 1264 00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,000 awareness 1265 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,400 that a large number of people in the 1266 00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,400 world need to have who don't yet have 1267 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,400 so i i feel like that's a mission right 1268 00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:30,480 there to to wake 1269 00:43:34,630 --> 00:43:33,280 more people up to that um what needs to 1270 00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:34,640 happen after that it's 1271 00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:36,800 it's many many actions by many many 1272 00:43:39,349 --> 00:43:38,640 people and knowledge will be a key part 1273 00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:39,359 of that 1274 00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:40,720 i mean you're doing what you're doing 1275 00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:42,560 because you have a gut sense that you 1276 00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:43,440 should do this 1277 00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:44,880 it's not easy doing this to have a 1278 00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:46,880 youtube channel and record these and 1279 00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:50,079 post produce video and you know spread 1280 00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,960 this message 1281 00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:52,480 you know and open up all these 1282 00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:54,079 discussions it's not easy 1283 00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:55,839 but you know i'm sure you have a sense 1284 00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:58,000 that this isn't really important and 1285 00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:01,119 must be continued uh and i do as well 1286 00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:04,319 so this is you know knowledge right 1287 00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:08,960 well um have they have they revealed 1288 00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:11,119 basically what kind of some of their 1289 00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:12,240 physical traits are 1290 00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:15,359 the allies of humanity um do they look 1291 00:44:19,430 --> 00:44:17,200 similar to us 1292 00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:19,440 would they truly be alien to us do you 1293 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:21,599 have any information on that 1294 00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:24,400 they don't reveal their origin their 1295 00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:25,599 planets of origin 1296 00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,960 the names of their races their 1297 00:44:30,390 --> 00:44:28,880 individual names their morphology their 1298 00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:30,400 physiology or any or that 1299 00:44:33,430 --> 00:44:33,040 um in part because we love that down 1300 00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,440 here 1301 00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:36,240 right everyone just loves to create you 1302 00:44:39,190 --> 00:44:36,640 know 1303 00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:39,200 a pantheon of extraterrestrials visiting 1304 00:44:41,510 --> 00:44:40,560 us and how they're all different where 1305 00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:41,520 they're from 1306 00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:44,079 it's it's all i mean it's not going to 1307 00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:45,040 help 1308 00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:48,319 um us reconcile what we have to do 1309 00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:51,119 and what's really going on so no in 1310 00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:52,800 short answer they do not 1311 00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:54,960 i think we know a little bit about what 1312 00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:55,839 the um 1313 00:45:00,230 --> 00:44:57,839 the intervention looks like there's a 1314 00:45:01,990 --> 00:45:00,240 lot of accounts by abductees and others 1315 00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:02,000 who have had physical contact with these 1316 00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:03,440 beings 1317 00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:05,040 so can you please go over that a little 1318 00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:06,880 bit if that's okay 1319 00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,760 i i'm no expert in that um but there are 1320 00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:11,040 experts in that 1321 00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:13,920 uh david jacobs comes to mind and um 1322 00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:15,599 i've had the pleasure to speak with him 1323 00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:17,839 on several occasions 1324 00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:20,640 and so what i know is mostly from the 1325 00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:22,800 accounts of abductees and researchers 1326 00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:23,520 like him 1327 00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,240 right so basically is it mainly because 1328 00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:28,319 the way the allies of humanity approach 1329 00:45:31,510 --> 00:45:29,680 this is to just 1330 00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:31,520 say hey watch out but they don't 1331 00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:32,800 necessarily say 1332 00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:35,119 who exactly am i correct at assuming 1333 00:45:37,589 --> 00:45:36,319 that yeah i mean it's 1334 00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:37,599 you could you could liken it to a 1335 00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:39,040 whistleblower right i mean if the 1336 00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,720 whistleblower get 1337 00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:42,240 the people have to know what they have 1338 00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,079 to know it's so bad 1339 00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:46,000 it's so pervasive what's happening so 1340 00:45:49,430 --> 00:45:47,119 blow the whistle you know 1341 00:45:51,589 --> 00:45:49,440 sound the alarm the whistleblower will 1342 00:45:53,270 --> 00:45:51,599 be destroyed should they be discovered 1343 00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,280 they will be terminated right 1344 00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:55,359 because the powers that are at work are 1345 00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,960 such that they can do that 1346 00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:58,720 that's what the allies say you know if 1347 00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:00,079 we were to give our planets of origin 1348 00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,000 there would be serious repercussions 1349 00:46:05,030 --> 00:46:04,000 if we were to try to mount a defense on 1350 00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,040 your behalf 1351 00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:07,280 it would be something akin to war and 1352 00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:08,720 there would be great destruction and 1353 00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:10,480 that's not how things even happen 1354 00:46:17,510 --> 00:46:14,079 in life so they are kind of like 1355 00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:17,520 um whistleblowers and um 1356 00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:19,359 in in as such they don't reveal a whole 1357 00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:21,280 lot about themselves 1358 00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:23,440 we do know a few things about them 1359 00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:24,720 through the new message 1360 00:46:30,390 --> 00:46:28,000 side of of marshall's work um 1361 00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:30,400 but that's that's that's not essential 1362 00:46:33,910 --> 00:46:32,000 to what their message is and 1363 00:46:35,430 --> 00:46:33,920 the actions that need to be taken are 1364 00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:35,440 there any kind of predictions 1365 00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:38,160 as to when things might ramp up more to 1366 00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:40,160 where it would become more obvious that 1367 00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:43,359 there's more of a hidden hand at play uh 1368 00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:46,319 in terms of years or is it just kind of 1369 00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:48,079 keep going keep searching and 1370 00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:50,880 you will get to to what you need to know 1371 00:46:54,470 --> 00:46:51,440 um 1372 00:46:57,349 --> 00:46:54,480 there no the allies have not said 1373 00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:57,359 when this will um when the intervention 1374 00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:58,640 will announce their presence more 1375 00:47:01,829 --> 00:46:59,760 broadly 1376 00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,839 or when certain stages of their plan 1377 00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:03,839 will will come into 1378 00:47:09,430 --> 00:47:07,200 play they do say their their plan is 1379 00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:09,440 pretty well advanced 1380 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,880 one thing we haven't talked about is the 1381 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:12,480 hybridization program 1382 00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:14,480 which has been underway for some decades 1383 00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,839 to produce 1384 00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:18,079 a human leadership that looks and walks 1385 00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:19,839 and talks like us but is fundamentally 1386 00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:21,760 not aligned or allied to us 1387 00:47:25,750 --> 00:47:24,880 it's aligned to them and that's a pretty 1388 00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,760 dark 1389 00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:27,599 thing to look at and it's very 1390 00:47:31,510 --> 00:47:28,960 unfortunate 1391 00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,520 but that's pretty advanced and what 1392 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:33,040 stage we are in that 1393 00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:35,440 where that where those individuals are 1394 00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:38,480 in the corridors of power i cannot say 1395 00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:41,040 so i don't think it's i don't think the 1396 00:47:44,790 --> 00:47:42,240 key is just to keep 1397 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:44,800 keep trucking and just keep you know 1398 00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:45,920 talking about 1399 00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:49,359 contact in ufos and uaps and you know 1400 00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:52,640 it's really to go beyond the question of 1401 00:47:57,030 --> 00:47:55,680 what is happening which we've researched 1402 00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:57,040 for decades 1403 00:48:01,109 --> 00:47:58,800 you know all the phenomena associated 1404 00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:01,119 with this to get to the next question of 1405 00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:04,000 what do we need to do about it and i 1406 00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:05,680 don't hear people talk a whole lot about 1407 00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:06,000 that 1408 00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:09,280 except you know invite contact surrender 1409 00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:10,720 to the visitors you know 1410 00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:12,880 which these are not reasonable next 1411 00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:14,000 steps 1412 00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:17,520 those do not arise from a rational mind 1413 00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:21,520 they are fundamentally irrational and so 1414 00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,760 it feels like things are stuck they're 1415 00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:25,520 stuck in this 1416 00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:27,280 what's happening and the government 1417 00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:28,960 needs to tell us 1418 00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:31,599 and the et's are probably here to save 1419 00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:33,520 us or give us technology or heal 1420 00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:35,839 you know the world and teach us things 1421 00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:36,559 and so 1422 00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:38,640 it's like we're stuck and we're loaded 1423 00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:40,240 with assumptions that we can't get 1424 00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:40,800 beyond 1425 00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:43,920 i would advocate getting over that hump 1426 00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:46,559 and then getting down the road of taking 1427 00:48:51,510 --> 00:48:49,119 action regarding the intervention 1428 00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:51,520 specifically well i know uh because i've 1429 00:48:54,549 --> 00:48:53,359 been into this and been talking to a lot 1430 00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:54,559 of people and 1431 00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:59,440 um there's there's always been this um 1432 00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:00,960 i wouldn't say the divide but it's 1433 00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:03,599 definitely been a source of um 1434 00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,440 of tension regarding the intentions 1435 00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:09,599 of these different visitors because 1436 00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:10,800 there i've i've seen 1437 00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,839 and heard both sides uh basically put 1438 00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:15,280 down a compelling case 1439 00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,359 about um i'm not trying to 1440 00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:21,920 kind of like defend or be pro one or 1441 00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:24,480 against the other but for example 1442 00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,520 almost everything i can't right on top 1443 00:49:31,349 --> 00:49:29,599 of my head i can't name you a lot but 1444 00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:31,359 perfect example that i can come up with 1445 00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:32,880 immediately 1446 00:49:38,710 --> 00:49:36,640 for example to what jacob's 1447 00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:38,720 david jacobs is saying there's the 1448 00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:41,520 opposite which was dolores cannon 1449 00:49:47,190 --> 00:49:44,800 you know and so both ends 1450 00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:47,200 you know uh basically talk about wanting 1451 00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:48,880 to to help 1452 00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:50,880 you know it's just about you know the 1453 00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,240 other side goes 1454 00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:54,480 one watch out there's you know this is 1455 00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:55,599 what they're doing and the other one 1456 00:49:58,390 --> 00:49:56,400 goes like 1457 00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,400 yes they are doing this but there's more 1458 00:50:02,470 --> 00:50:00,240 to it and this is why 1459 00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:02,480 and so it's almost makes you think like 1460 00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,920 okay well where do you go 1461 00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,839 you know that's what brings me back to i 1462 00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,200 guess we talked about this and i don't 1463 00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:08,880 want to keep rehashing about then okay 1464 00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:10,480 just follow your gut feeling then 1465 00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:13,040 who do you who do you follow who do you 1466 00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:14,640 whose information you take in 1467 00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:16,319 yeah i think it's a tall order to tell 1468 00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,960 the world follow your gut feeling you'll 1469 00:50:22,710 --> 00:50:20,480 know the truth 1470 00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,720 i think the truth is so apparent that 1471 00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:24,079 any reasonable thinking 1472 00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,800 person who doesn't want something and 1473 00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:28,400 have their own personal agenda from 1474 00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,119 contact 1475 00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:31,359 can easily see this for what it is i've 1476 00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:33,680 asked on many different shows 1477 00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:36,960 tell me show me one thing the visitors 1478 00:50:40,790 --> 00:50:38,000 are doing 1479 00:50:43,589 --> 00:50:40,800 doing not saying physically doing that 1480 00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,599 signals a beneficial intent 1481 00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:45,119 they're flying in our skies unannounced 1482 00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:46,559 they're taking people they're taking 1483 00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:47,280 animals 1484 00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:49,359 they're manipulating governments they're 1485 00:50:52,230 --> 00:50:50,319 seeding all these 1486 00:50:53,430 --> 00:50:52,240 disparate and false well competing 1487 00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:53,440 narratives 1488 00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,240 they're doing all of that okay show me 1489 00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:57,839 what they're doing 1490 00:51:01,030 --> 00:51:00,640 that signals a beneficial intent and 1491 00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:01,040 then 1492 00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:02,559 some people say well yes people are 1493 00:51:06,069 --> 00:51:04,079 being taken but 1494 00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:06,079 they made a soul contract before this 1495 00:51:09,589 --> 00:51:08,160 life to be taken 1496 00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:09,599 and they're actually they're being 1497 00:51:13,109 --> 00:51:11,440 welcomed back you know into their 1498 00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:13,119 brotherhood or into their spiritual 1499 00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:16,640 you know network by being it's like 1500 00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:21,200 okay that is not a reasonable statement 1501 00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:24,240 of fact regarding how people are being 1502 00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:25,200 taken 1503 00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,760 that that is an association that's being 1504 00:51:31,829 --> 00:51:29,520 made because somebody wants something 1505 00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:31,839 from this they want it to be good 1506 00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:33,839 they're trying to twist an actual 1507 00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:35,359 physical event 1508 00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:38,319 to be good when it's obviously not good 1509 00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:39,280 and so 1510 00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:42,720 i personally um i i've i've kind of 1511 00:51:46,790 --> 00:51:43,520 reached my 1512 00:51:49,829 --> 00:51:46,800 limit of tolerance with the the 50 50 1513 00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:49,839 you know argument which is while they 1514 00:51:52,790 --> 00:51:51,359 could be good they could be bad some are 1515 00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:52,800 good some are bad some of what they're 1516 00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:54,240 doing is bad some what they're doing is 1517 00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:55,760 good it's like 1518 00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:59,599 wow you can't see that there is an armed 1519 00:52:05,829 --> 00:52:01,839 individual in your house 1520 00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:05,839 you know taking your child now 1521 00:52:09,990 --> 00:52:07,680 how have you been so disabled that you 1522 00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:10,000 cannot see that and act upon it 1523 00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:11,760 and this is the pacification program 1524 00:52:15,910 --> 00:52:14,079 people are being disabled 1525 00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:15,920 their their core faculties are being 1526 00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:17,760 disabled their basic 1527 00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:21,520 native innate wisdom like about how life 1528 00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:23,200 works is being disabled 1529 00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:25,920 and so you have these wild beliefs about 1530 00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:27,119 contact 1531 00:52:30,829 --> 00:52:29,119 uh and but they're not the 50 50. 1532 00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,839 they're not the other side of the 1533 00:52:35,829 --> 00:52:32,079 argument 1534 00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:35,839 in my view the the picture is abundantly 1535 00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:41,030 probably they're here to take what they 1536 00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:42,720 want they have an agenda 1537 00:52:45,910 --> 00:52:44,319 they're working with different groups 1538 00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:45,920 for different reasons they're not 1539 00:52:49,430 --> 00:52:47,760 disclosing it 1540 00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:49,440 we the people have not been consulted 1541 00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:51,760 we're not being told what's happening 1542 00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:53,520 not just by government but by the e.t 1543 00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:54,880 presence itself 1544 00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:56,800 all of that just points in a direction 1545 00:52:59,829 --> 00:52:58,319 but do we want to go 1546 00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:59,839 do we want to look in that direction 1547 00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:01,599 that's another question 1548 00:53:04,950 --> 00:53:03,680 everyone has a desire to see things a 1549 00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:04,960 certain way 1550 00:53:08,950 --> 00:53:07,200 and when something really new happens 1551 00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:08,960 you have to abandon that 1552 00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:12,160 in order to see it i mean 1553 00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:15,520 you know if a hurricane happens but you 1554 00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:17,440 really really want it to be 1555 00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:19,359 god everything that happens is god god 1556 00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:21,280 creates everything 1557 00:53:25,190 --> 00:53:23,359 then you're going to call a hurricane 1558 00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,200 god's wrath 1559 00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:27,119 and that's really unfortunate and that 1560 00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:29,920 is not the the logical other side of the 1561 00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:30,480 coin 1562 00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:32,160 that is not the other side of the 1563 00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:33,760 argument 1564 00:53:37,829 --> 00:53:35,760 that is an assumption leading to 1565 00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:37,839 delusion and so 1566 00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:40,640 i feel like that's largely what's taking 1567 00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:41,119 over 1568 00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,720 for those who are who are who have been 1569 00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:44,160 in this field for a long time is they 1570 00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:45,920 want to see it a certain way 1571 00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:47,680 or they really don't want to see it a 1572 00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:50,000 certain way they don't want to see this 1573 00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:50,800 as a silent 1574 00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,480 invasion because that's what it is 1575 00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:54,640 because to see it that way 1576 00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:58,000 would make you act right 1577 00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,599 i go back to the 1930s how many germans 1578 00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:03,839 saw the rise of the nazi party saw what 1579 00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:05,119 they were doing 1580 00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:06,800 it was all pointing in one direction 1581 00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:09,520 right but told themselves 1582 00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:11,760 another story well no wait maybe they're 1583 00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:13,280 here to bring back 1584 00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,520 you know the german heartland and you 1585 00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:17,040 know what's great about german people 1586 00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:18,880 and our and our basic values maybe 1587 00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:20,079 they're trying to unite 1588 00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,720 europe around those like and of course 1589 00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,720 the nazi party played into all sorts of 1590 00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:26,160 narratives like that 1591 00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:29,200 right but basically people didn't want 1592 00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,680 to see 1593 00:54:32,950 --> 00:54:31,520 what was right in front of them and it 1594 00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:32,960 really was right in front of them the 1595 00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,000 whole time 1596 00:54:37,270 --> 00:54:36,559 and and look what happened i go back to 1597 00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:37,280 that time 1598 00:54:41,829 --> 00:54:39,599 often these days because we're facing a 1599 00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:41,839 force somewhat similar 1600 00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:44,000 uh way more powerful and way more 1601 00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:46,240 calculating with a much more complex 1602 00:54:49,750 --> 00:54:47,839 and well-engineered script than the 1603 00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:49,760 nazis had 1604 00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:52,880 but similar in terms of the darkness of 1605 00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:54,480 that force and what they intended to 1606 00:54:57,349 --> 00:54:55,280 perpetrate 1607 00:54:58,710 --> 00:54:57,359 and the intervention is right up there 1608 00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:58,720 if not above that 1609 00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:01,040 probably is and so that people can't 1610 00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:02,799 basically see that 1611 00:55:07,030 --> 00:55:04,960 is a problem it's a problem in sight 1612 00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:07,040 actually and being able to see 1613 00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:08,559 that's not a problem of needing more 1614 00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:10,480 information or more disclosure 1615 00:55:14,710 --> 00:55:13,359 do the allies of humanity give some kind 1616 00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,720 of like 1617 00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:17,280 an event or something that that would be 1618 00:55:22,230 --> 00:55:18,799 happening at certain times 1619 00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:22,240 that would kind of help solidify that oh 1620 00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,480 this is more of the work of the hidden 1621 00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:26,480 hand you know i know 1622 00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:29,520 not necessarily predictions or time-wise 1623 00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,319 but do they 1624 00:55:35,510 --> 00:55:33,440 talk about general events the hidden 1625 00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:35,520 hand of the intervention 1626 00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:39,200 no do the allies talk about that correct 1627 00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,280 to say for example like something maybe 1628 00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,880 you know maybe they might not have what 1629 00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:44,160 they you know otherwise you would have 1630 00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:45,280 mentioned it but let's say they would 1631 00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:45,920 say 1632 00:55:49,190 --> 00:55:47,680 you know be wary of the government of 1633 00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:49,200 the sudden agreeing or 1634 00:55:52,390 --> 00:55:51,680 not not rejecting ufos that would be a 1635 00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:52,400 first sign 1636 00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,880 they have given some some benchmarks or 1637 00:55:57,990 --> 00:55:56,640 signs that we can follow to understand 1638 00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,000 where things are 1639 00:56:01,510 --> 00:56:00,240 um one thing is that they have said that 1640 00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:01,520 at some point 1641 00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:03,440 the intervention will put an individual 1642 00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:05,040 in the world who will claim to be the 1643 00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:07,119 returning messiah 1644 00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:10,000 and this individual will not be human 1645 00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:11,359 they will be a hybrid 1646 00:56:14,870 --> 00:56:12,880 and they will have the powers of the 1647 00:56:16,549 --> 00:56:14,880 visitors but they will look human 1648 00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:16,559 they'll have the power to influence 1649 00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:18,799 people's emotions to project 1650 00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:22,319 uh psychic images or visions for people 1651 00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:25,440 very polarizing and so they have warned 1652 00:56:31,270 --> 00:56:28,240 about the appearance of that individual 1653 00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:31,280 a jesus figure although i 1654 00:56:33,910 --> 00:56:32,640 i think it could happen in many 1655 00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:33,920 traditions i don't think it would just 1656 00:56:36,309 --> 00:56:35,280 be in the christian world if that 1657 00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:36,319 happens 1658 00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:38,720 um so the appearance of that person 1659 00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:39,440 claiming 1660 00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:44,160 that roland title would be one um 1661 00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:45,520 i'm trying to think if there are any 1662 00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:47,920 other specific 1663 00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,559 specific events that take place um 1664 00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,240 yeah i can't pull any off the top of my 1665 00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:58,950 oh another one i'll throw in actually is 1666 00:57:04,150 --> 00:56:59,920 that they have 1667 00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:04,160 they have said that um the united states 1668 00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:05,839 was initially the target of the 1669 00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:07,280 intervention being the most powerful 1670 00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:08,240 country in the world 1671 00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:11,440 clearly uh and yet in the end the united 1672 00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:12,160 states 1673 00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,520 ended up resisting the intervention and 1674 00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:17,359 i don't know what component of the 1675 00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:19,119 government did that i'm sure i've sensed 1676 00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:20,240 there were competing 1677 00:57:25,109 --> 00:57:23,359 components but the bulk response was was 1678 00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:25,119 repulsion of the intervention and 1679 00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:26,000 resistance to 1680 00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:29,920 it that is partly why movements arose in 1681 00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:30,720 the middle east 1682 00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:33,839 were stirred up to embroil this country 1683 00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:37,280 in conflict very costly conflict 1684 00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:39,280 to weaken this country financially 1685 00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:42,000 economically and morally in the world 1686 00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,599 so the the radicalization of people who 1687 00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,440 have religious beliefs 1688 00:57:50,549 --> 00:57:49,440 is one part of what the intervention 1689 00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:50,559 does 1690 00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:52,160 it's it's actually there are four 1691 00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:53,680 activities of the intervention one of 1692 00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,400 them 1693 00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:57,040 is tapping into our religious beliefs 1694 00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:58,799 and traditions 1695 00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,440 manipulating that either as a thing that 1696 00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:03,200 the intervention can receive or benefit 1697 00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:04,480 from meaning we are the 1698 00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:07,440 we are the savior or the messiah or we 1699 00:58:10,150 --> 00:58:08,640 are the brothers or the galactic 1700 00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:10,160 federation 1701 00:58:13,990 --> 00:58:12,720 or if that can't be if it can't be 1702 00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:14,000 turned in that way to just 1703 00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:16,160 turn up the dial on the extremism of 1704 00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,200 that tradition 1705 00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:19,440 and produce conflict that weakens the 1706 00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:21,200 world fractures the world 1707 00:58:26,470 --> 00:58:24,160 makes human institutions even more inept 1708 00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:26,480 in the face of what's going on 1709 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:28,559 so i think the wars in the middle east 1710 00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:29,680 were a sign 1711 00:58:33,349 --> 00:58:31,920 of that occurring yeah i was just going 1712 00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:33,359 to ask so basically 1713 00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:35,599 what to roughly about 20 years ago is 1714 00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:36,480 when that 1715 00:58:42,789 --> 00:58:39,520 initial resistance happened then um 1716 00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:42,799 well if we go back to 911 on the wars 1717 00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:44,720 that would follow 1718 00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:47,520 you could say that um i can't personally 1719 00:58:51,910 --> 00:58:48,720 say when it started 1720 00:58:53,589 --> 00:58:51,920 where you know okay or if the us is not 1721 00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:53,599 currently collaborating with them 1722 00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:55,440 uh there are multiple collectives in the 1723 00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:56,720 world it's worth 1724 00:59:00,069 --> 00:58:58,960 noting this it's not just one 1725 00:59:02,309 --> 00:59:00,079 intervention 1726 00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:02,319 it's multiple collectives they they have 1727 00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:04,160 the same overall goal 1728 00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:05,839 they want what this world has and they 1729 00:59:10,549 --> 00:59:07,839 want us as the workforce 1730 00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:10,559 to get it for them but they represent 1731 00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:12,079 different networks 1732 00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:14,240 of worlds and so they are competing with 1733 00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:15,920 each other but the allies do say they 1734 00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:17,760 will collaborate at a certain point to 1735 00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:18,000 win 1736 00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:21,520 the race um but is that behind some of 1737 00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:23,520 the conflict we see 1738 00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:25,760 behind between the u.s and russia for 1739 00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:27,200 example or the u.s and china 1740 00:59:33,109 --> 00:59:30,240 possibly i don't know i guess 1741 00:59:35,190 --> 00:59:33,119 you know going back then to the very 1742 00:59:38,789 --> 00:59:35,200 very basic premise then 1743 00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:38,799 in a way um 1744 00:59:42,789 --> 00:59:40,559 how small that you initially mentioned 1745 00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:42,799 this this group to be because 1746 00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:46,160 if um i mean in in some way if if uh 1747 00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,559 the good guys let's say see this 1748 00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:50,000 wouldn't that be really 1749 00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:52,160 a lot easier if they would just 1750 00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:53,760 intervene but they would just 1751 00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:55,920 they what the whole premise is that they 1752 01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:58,079 don't want this conflict because of this 1753 01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:00,960 possible great war so first question how 1754 01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:02,799 large is the intervention 1755 01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:04,640 um i would put i would throw out a 1756 01:00:09,349 --> 01:00:06,240 number of thousands 1757 01:00:10,950 --> 01:00:09,359 initially um but the allies said i was 1758 01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:10,960 just reading it yesterday that 1759 01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:12,960 they year after year they bring more 1760 01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:14,720 they bring more supplies they've created 1761 01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:16,960 establishments on multiple 1762 01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:19,760 satellites and planets in our solar 1763 01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:20,559 system and 1764 01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,280 on the moon to observe and so their 1765 01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:25,280 their facilities and infrastructure has 1766 01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:28,160 grown over the last 50 60 years 1767 01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:31,680 the allies call it a dozen 1768 01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:34,400 okay these are whistleblowers all they 1769 01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:36,000 can do is alert 1770 01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:39,359 educate and encourage action we've got 1771 01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:40,799 seven billion people we've got all the 1772 01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:42,799 people we need to take action against 1773 01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:45,599 several thousand um but who would it be 1774 01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:47,119 i'm sorry to interrupt who would it be 1775 01:00:50,549 --> 01:00:47,520 then 1776 01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:50,559 uh since you said it's not 1777 01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:53,920 it's not permitted to take a 1778 01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:56,160 planet by force or take over a society 1779 01:01:00,150 --> 01:00:57,040 by force 1780 01:01:01,510 --> 01:01:00,160 who would for example um be to correct 1781 01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:01,520 that that's what i'm asking 1782 01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:04,880 so i mean good question so the allies 1783 01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:07,680 give a whole set of teachings about what 1784 01:01:10,150 --> 01:01:08,480 life is like 1785 01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,160 around us and that that's a whole thing 1786 01:01:16,069 --> 01:01:12,799 we could talk about for easily an hour 1787 01:01:18,470 --> 01:01:16,079 but in essence the universe 1788 01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:18,480 that we live in is highly inhabited this 1789 01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:20,640 this part of our galaxy 1790 01:01:25,109 --> 01:01:23,200 there are very long-standing agreements 1791 01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:25,119 surrounding trade 1792 01:01:29,829 --> 01:01:27,760 there are small there are many nations 1793 01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:29,839 that control maybe one or multiple solar 1794 01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:30,799 systems and some 1795 01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:33,040 small what you might call empires but 1796 01:01:35,829 --> 01:01:35,119 there's no galactic federation there's 1797 01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:35,839 no 1798 01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:38,160 true empire that controls swaths of the 1799 01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:39,119 galaxy 1800 01:01:43,670 --> 01:01:41,200 it's much more of a medieval landscape 1801 01:01:45,510 --> 01:01:43,680 in fact of little kingdoms 1802 01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:45,520 that more or less stay to themselves 1803 01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:47,280 trade and try to keep 1804 01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:50,240 you know the marauders out now marauders 1805 01:01:52,870 --> 01:01:51,359 not in terms of 1806 01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:52,880 you know those literally coming to 1807 01:01:57,109 --> 01:01:54,799 destroy it's more at the 1808 01:01:59,109 --> 01:01:57,119 economic marauders those who are coming 1809 01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,119 to weave themselves into your network to 1810 01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:01,119 make you dependent on them to influence 1811 01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:03,280 you to want what they have all of that 1812 01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:06,720 it's a very mature form of conflict 1813 01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:08,079 going on out there 1814 01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:11,680 but the universe we're in is is this 1815 01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:13,359 environment where there's a lot of life 1816 01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:15,039 there's a lot of interaction in trade 1817 01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:15,920 there are 1818 01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:18,960 there's no great empire or you know 1819 01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:21,359 force controlling everything what there 1820 01:02:26,950 --> 01:02:23,920 is though is there is an economic 1821 01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:26,960 council that controls trade and governs 1822 01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:28,559 how worlds interact for the sake of 1823 01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:29,760 stability 1824 01:02:33,990 --> 01:02:32,400 and they are the ones that preside in 1825 01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:34,000 this area in which we live they are the 1826 01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:36,480 ones who do not permit outright conquest 1827 01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:38,480 because it would destabilize 1828 01:02:43,349 --> 01:02:41,440 you know things uh they do not want war 1829 01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:43,359 they do not want destruction 1830 01:02:47,109 --> 01:02:46,000 and yet they also acknowledge that there 1831 01:02:48,870 --> 01:02:47,119 are there is a certain 1832 01:02:50,470 --> 01:02:48,880 amount of black market trade that must 1833 01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:50,480 go on to keep you know the wheels 1834 01:02:53,990 --> 01:02:50,960 turning 1835 01:02:54,710 --> 01:02:54,000 and so there's a lot that's ex that's 1836 01:02:59,430 --> 01:02:54,720 allowed 1837 01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:59,440 have outright war in conquest that 1838 01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:01,440 this this region of space in that we are 1839 01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:03,920 in has eclipsed that 1840 01:03:07,829 --> 01:03:05,520 who knows how many tens of thousands of 1841 01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:07,839 years ago this is what the allies say 1842 01:03:11,349 --> 01:03:09,680 and so we live in this tightly 1843 01:03:12,870 --> 01:03:11,359 controlled environment where there are 1844 01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:12,880 ways to gain access 1845 01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:16,000 to emerging worlds with rich resources 1846 01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:18,079 but you have to do it a certain way has 1847 01:03:21,910 --> 01:03:19,200 to be subtle 1848 01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:21,920 it has to be undertaken quietly and 1849 01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:23,039 secretly 1850 01:03:26,630 --> 01:03:25,359 the the the whole part of genetic 1851 01:03:28,549 --> 01:03:26,640 manipulation 1852 01:03:31,109 --> 01:03:28,559 is very real and is practiced pretty 1853 01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:31,119 widespread out there apparently 1854 01:03:35,109 --> 01:03:33,760 and is more or less allowed and accepted 1855 01:03:37,430 --> 01:03:35,119 and so the intervention is 1856 01:03:38,549 --> 01:03:37,440 is operating off an old playbook it's an 1857 01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:38,559 old playbook 1858 01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:41,119 it's like chevron going into venice the 1859 01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:42,799 venezuelan jungle and they want to take 1860 01:03:45,829 --> 01:03:44,319 the oil under the native's ground but 1861 01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:45,839 you have to do it a certain way right 1862 01:03:49,750 --> 01:03:47,200 you can't just move in 1863 01:03:51,670 --> 01:03:49,760 and destroy the environment and suck the 1864 01:03:54,069 --> 01:03:51,680 oil out and collapse the country 1865 01:03:55,910 --> 01:03:54,079 you got to do it a certain way and so 1866 01:03:59,750 --> 01:03:55,920 these collectives operate 1867 01:04:02,630 --> 01:03:59,760 along these very complex playbooks which 1868 01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:02,640 are not they're they're dark i mean it's 1869 01:04:06,630 --> 01:04:04,559 very very dark taking people against 1870 01:04:08,390 --> 01:04:06,640 their will 1871 01:04:09,910 --> 01:04:08,400 taking their you know their physical 1872 01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:09,920 body their organs selling 1873 01:04:13,750 --> 01:04:11,680 their bodies and parts of their bodies 1874 01:04:15,750 --> 01:04:13,760 and this is there's a real dark 1875 01:04:17,910 --> 01:04:15,760 underworld to what the intervention is 1876 01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:17,920 doing but in the greater community 1877 01:04:23,990 --> 01:04:21,440 in which we live it's quite common 1878 01:04:25,829 --> 01:04:24,000 uh i know this kind of blows up our our 1879 01:04:26,710 --> 01:04:25,839 hope that the universe was just way 1880 01:04:28,150 --> 01:04:26,720 better 1881 01:04:29,829 --> 01:04:28,160 than life here on earth and it was 1882 01:04:30,549 --> 01:04:29,839 spiritual and we're really low and it's 1883 01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:30,559 really high 1884 01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:33,440 and it's really not like that it's 1885 01:04:38,470 --> 01:04:34,400 nature out there 1886 01:04:40,789 --> 01:04:38,480 it's competition survival of the fittest 1887 01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:40,799 it's taken on a much more nuanced and 1888 01:04:45,670 --> 01:04:42,640 higher level 1889 01:04:48,150 --> 01:04:45,680 conflict has it's not you know brutal 1890 01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:48,160 and and destructive that's what we're 1891 01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:49,599 kind of brutal and destructive down here 1892 01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:51,119 and how we think 1893 01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:54,160 um some people say i've heard this so 1894 01:04:58,630 --> 01:04:56,400 many times over so many years well 1895 01:04:59,990 --> 01:04:58,640 if they wanted to destroy us and take 1896 01:05:00,390 --> 01:05:00,000 the world they would have already done 1897 01:05:02,230 --> 01:05:00,400 it 1898 01:05:04,230 --> 01:05:02,240 and they haven't so they must be here 1899 01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:04,240 for our good 1900 01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:06,079 that is projecting our human 1901 01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:08,160 understanding of conflict 1902 01:05:15,270 --> 01:05:12,079 and force out onto space 1903 01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:15,280 what i say to response to that is maybe 1904 01:05:21,190 --> 01:05:18,319 we are part of the resource they want 1905 01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:21,200 so destroying us and taking the world 1906 01:05:25,349 --> 01:05:22,880 that's not what they're after 1907 01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:25,359 they want us they want the biology of 1908 01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:26,240 the world 1909 01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:27,599 and they have to operate by a very 1910 01:05:32,789 --> 01:05:30,079 complex playbook to get it 1911 01:05:33,589 --> 01:05:32,799 that we don't understand and so but when 1912 01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:33,599 the allies 1913 01:05:37,029 --> 01:05:35,680 you know reveal that it's very helpful 1914 01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:37,039 it's very helpful to see that 1915 01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:38,240 perspective which 1916 01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:40,000 you know we could never have otherwise 1917 01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:43,039 so uh biology and um 1918 01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:46,240 sort of this kind of um 1919 01:05:50,549 --> 01:05:47,520 what was the other word i was going to 1920 01:05:53,029 --> 01:05:50,559 say genetic resources is that basically 1921 01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:53,039 like their version of our gold 1922 01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:55,920 yeah yeah exactly we think of resources 1923 01:05:59,990 --> 01:05:57,039 as minerals 1924 01:06:01,750 --> 01:06:00,000 and petroleum and you know for them it's 1925 01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:01,760 biology because the universe 1926 01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:04,079 is is an environment of largely barren 1927 01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:05,039 planets 1928 01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:07,359 there are very there are earth-like 1929 01:06:10,390 --> 01:06:08,799 worlds are rare 1930 01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:10,400 they are there are many but they are 1931 01:06:15,029 --> 01:06:12,640 rare and it is very rare for an 1932 01:06:16,870 --> 01:06:15,039 environment to naturally 1933 01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:16,880 allow or support the emergence of 1934 01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:19,039 complex life forms 1935 01:06:25,029 --> 01:06:22,240 and so often life is taken off those 1936 01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:25,039 planets and seeded elsewhere 1937 01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:27,680 often intelligence is seeded in races 1938 01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:30,000 early on in their development to hasten 1939 01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:32,640 the rise of their of their capabilities 1940 01:06:35,589 --> 01:06:34,240 that has happened to us 1941 01:06:38,069 --> 01:06:35,599 uh we are the recipients of 1942 01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:38,079 extraterrestrial um 1943 01:06:43,029 --> 01:06:41,039 genetics but that was long ago by a 1944 01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:43,039 whole other set of races who were not 1945 01:06:47,430 --> 01:06:44,400 here for the planet 1946 01:06:48,870 --> 01:06:47,440 and for us us at that time being a few 1947 01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:48,880 tribes in the jungle there were no 1948 01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:50,720 nations there was no trade 1949 01:06:54,150 --> 01:06:52,640 the intervention now is here for the 1950 01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:54,160 planet and they're here for us 1951 01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:55,920 and they're going to use what we have 1952 01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:57,760 developed which is trade 1953 01:07:01,670 --> 01:07:00,480 communications this whole globalized 1954 01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:01,680 world that we now have 1955 01:07:07,109 --> 01:07:04,880 to extract what they want and uh and 1956 01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:07,119 largely that is biology although it's 1957 01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:09,039 also it's also 1958 01:07:12,230 --> 01:07:10,559 things to do with you know mineral 1959 01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:12,240 deposits that are rare and 1960 01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:14,799 you know that can be bought and sold so 1961 01:07:19,750 --> 01:07:16,640 there's a big market out there 1962 01:07:23,109 --> 01:07:19,760 and earth has a lot of product and so 1963 01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:23,119 um we've been found uh the allies do say 1964 01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:23,440 that 1965 01:07:28,150 --> 01:07:25,680 we this this world and this solar system 1966 01:07:30,069 --> 01:07:28,160 is not largely known of 1967 01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:30,079 and that this it's actually been kept a 1968 01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:32,640 secret out there that this place exists 1969 01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:34,799 i'm sure because someone at some point 1970 01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:36,559 had designs 1971 01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:38,799 but an important thing to understand 1972 01:07:41,349 --> 01:07:40,319 that may not make sense initially you 1973 01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:41,359 know why wouldn't they just 1974 01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:44,160 come down here either get us out of the 1975 01:07:47,910 --> 01:07:45,440 way or you know 1976 01:07:49,270 --> 01:07:47,920 work with us but take what they want why 1977 01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:49,280 wouldn't they just extract what they 1978 01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:50,400 want from the jungles 1979 01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,559 and from the oceans and just and just 1980 01:07:56,549 --> 01:07:54,400 take it and go 1981 01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:56,559 part of it is that the scale of what 1982 01:08:00,069 --> 01:07:57,680 they want to take 1983 01:08:01,750 --> 01:08:00,079 is not just a couple plants you know 1984 01:08:03,349 --> 01:08:01,760 like that movie e.t you know coming to 1985 01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:03,359 the forest and taking a couple shrubs 1986 01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:04,160 home 1987 01:08:08,829 --> 01:08:06,960 they want a lot more than that uh second 1988 01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:08,839 we are part of the biology that they 1989 01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:10,720 want right 1990 01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:12,480 and so today there are seven billion of 1991 01:08:18,390 --> 01:08:14,640 us all the better 1992 01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:18,400 maybe and then um and lastly 1993 01:08:22,390 --> 01:08:20,640 they want what we've established this 1994 01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:22,400 network that we've established in the 1995 01:08:24,630 --> 01:08:23,120 world 1996 01:08:27,030 --> 01:08:24,640 they want to use that because they 1997 01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:27,040 themselves cannot live here 1998 01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:28,880 the biology of this world is both a 1999 01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:30,640 benefit but it's a double-edged 2000 01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:33,839 sword it's also it's also an environment 2001 01:08:38,070 --> 01:08:36,560 so complex with so many pathogens that 2002 01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,080 they cannot protect themselves 2003 01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:40,400 from all of those they need us we are 2004 01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:42,080 adapted they are not 2005 01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:45,120 so they cannot live here so 2006 01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:48,000 this world that we now have in 2021 this 2007 01:08:52,630 --> 01:08:50,080 globalized world is a key 2008 01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:52,640 part of what they're after and this did 2009 01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:54,560 not exist in 1950 or 2010 01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:58,159 1900 or in 1800 or in 1200 2011 01:09:01,349 --> 01:09:00,000 it's only existed in the last few 2012 01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:01,359 decades 2013 01:09:04,789 --> 01:09:04,080 and that i think was was like a linchpin 2014 01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:04,799 in their plan 2015 01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:07,839 they needed a whole world infrastructure 2016 01:09:12,390 --> 01:09:10,000 that they could tap 2017 01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:12,400 to get what they want from this place so 2018 01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:13,040 there's been 2019 01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:18,640 talk or more emergence especially 2020 01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:21,520 leading up to the 2021 01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:25,040 to the ufo report regarding um 2022 01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:28,239 alien invasion and so some are saying 2023 01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:29,279 that 2024 01:09:32,470 --> 01:09:31,520 the government will use the alien 2025 01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:32,480 invasion 2026 01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:35,040 as a kind of false flag event to say we 2027 01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,480 need more protection 2028 01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:39,359 and others say that no that's a you know 2029 01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:40,560 that's a valid 2030 01:09:44,070 --> 01:09:43,279 valid um uh premise of a government to 2031 01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:44,080 to have 2032 01:09:47,829 --> 01:09:46,000 uh word do you have any information 2033 01:09:49,749 --> 01:09:47,839 regarding that and which side of the 2034 01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:49,759 coin if i to kind of say that way would 2035 01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:52,880 the allies of humanity be on 2036 01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,800 uh well we know inside the allies would 2037 01:09:57,669 --> 01:09:56,080 be on um 2038 01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:57,679 you know they're here because the 2039 01:10:01,910 --> 01:09:59,360 intervention is here 2040 01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:01,920 what governments do the agendas and 2041 01:10:05,830 --> 01:10:03,840 conspiracies that they concoct 2042 01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,840 to benefit from this or to get 2043 01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:08,159 territorial acquisition or 2044 01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:10,400 you know to punish long-standing hatreds 2045 01:10:13,510 --> 01:10:11,920 and enemies i mean that's 2046 01:10:15,430 --> 01:10:13,520 that's our that's that's for us to 2047 01:10:18,390 --> 01:10:15,440 figure out um 2048 01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:18,400 i myself don't know quite where the 2049 01:10:22,390 --> 01:10:19,120 government 2050 01:10:25,030 --> 01:10:22,400 stands with the intervention i would 2051 01:10:27,830 --> 01:10:25,040 love for someone to reach out to me 2052 01:10:29,189 --> 01:10:27,840 things like that have happened uh in the 2053 01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:29,199 past for us 2054 01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:32,960 but not recently and so um 2055 01:10:36,070 --> 01:10:34,400 that would be good but it hasn't 2056 01:10:38,229 --> 01:10:36,080 happened so no one's no one's calling me 2057 01:10:40,149 --> 01:10:38,239 up to tell me where things stand 2058 01:10:43,590 --> 01:10:40,159 regarding collaboration or resistance on 2059 01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:45,669 i think i'm very wary when i see 2060 01:10:49,990 --> 01:10:47,199 disclosure 2061 01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:50,000 um because it looks it looks it's like 2062 01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:52,239 it's being meted out very carefully 2063 01:10:56,830 --> 01:10:55,360 and it's being put out and and shaped 2064 01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:56,840 into a narrative that can be 2065 01:11:01,189 --> 01:10:59,199 used and that's part of the tricky thing 2066 01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:01,199 about this adam this whole field 2067 01:11:07,590 --> 01:11:05,600 is that it is a hall of mirrors 2068 01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:07,600 stepping into this i mean there are 2069 01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:09,040 competing agendas 2070 01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:11,600 that have created the very conspiracy 2071 01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:12,800 against them 2072 01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:14,880 only so that they can control the 2073 01:11:19,669 --> 01:11:17,120 resistance to them 2074 01:11:21,750 --> 01:11:19,679 like the intervention has created some 2075 01:11:23,510 --> 01:11:21,760 of the conspiracies about 2076 01:11:25,270 --> 01:11:23,520 negative et's in the world and their 2077 01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:25,280 agenda and all of this simply so they 2078 01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:26,000 can control that 2079 01:11:30,310 --> 01:11:27,840 narrative keep it small keep it 2080 01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:30,320 irrelevant keep it weak 2081 01:11:35,669 --> 01:11:32,400 so it's a hall of mirrors and it's very 2082 01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:35,679 hard to know who's doing what 2083 01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:37,360 i don't know if the intervention will 2084 01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:38,880 take 2085 01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:41,760 the right-hand course of revealing 2086 01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,320 themselves more broadly 2087 01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:47,280 and publicly announcing that they're 2088 01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:49,360 here for our good and public like taking 2089 01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:50,719 that very public approach 2090 01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:53,679 and getting all eyes on them or if they 2091 01:11:58,229 --> 01:11:55,520 will stay subterranean 2092 01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:58,239 like a subcutaneous you know autoimmune 2093 01:12:01,510 --> 01:11:59,840 disease that you don't know you have but 2094 01:12:03,669 --> 01:12:01,520 you do 2095 01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:03,679 in which no one knows they're here 2096 01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:05,920 except the ones they want to know 2097 01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:09,040 and they stay it's very subterranean 20 2098 01:12:12,709 --> 01:12:10,560 years from now you walk down the street 2099 01:12:15,910 --> 01:12:12,719 it'll look just like this 2100 01:12:17,830 --> 01:12:15,920 you know but it won't feel like this and 2101 01:12:19,590 --> 01:12:17,840 quietly in back rooms it won't be 2102 01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:19,600 working like it was 2103 01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:21,360 will they go left will they go right my 2104 01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:22,960 sense is they'll go left 2105 01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:24,880 personally that this will stay 2106 01:12:28,229 --> 01:12:26,480 subterranean 2107 01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:28,239 and that's why part of what could be 2108 01:12:33,510 --> 01:12:30,800 done is to just tell more people 2109 01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:33,520 that contact is happening because that 2110 01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:34,560 right there 2111 01:12:37,669 --> 01:12:36,159 throws a wrench in the works of the 2112 01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:37,679 intervention 2113 01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:41,280 they want to i think acclimate us 2114 01:12:45,189 --> 01:12:44,239 very slowly you know as if you're in a 2115 01:12:48,390 --> 01:12:45,199 pot of water 2116 01:12:50,229 --> 01:12:48,400 that's lukewarm and then once a year it 2117 01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:50,239 goes up one degree and you you can't 2118 01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:52,000 even feel the change 2119 01:12:55,110 --> 01:12:54,159 it's just but it is going up and in the 2120 01:12:57,430 --> 01:12:55,120 end you will boil 2121 01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:57,440 right but you won't feel it until it's 2122 01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:58,320 too late 2123 01:13:01,750 --> 01:12:59,760 that's my sense is they're going to go 2124 01:13:03,430 --> 01:13:01,760 with that very incremental 2125 01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:03,440 approach to acclimate people to their 2126 01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:05,280 presence that's certainly what they've 2127 01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:06,480 been doing 2128 01:13:11,590 --> 01:13:10,000 and so to to go more hands-on 2129 01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,600 you know you use that that phrase a 2130 01:13:17,270 --> 01:13:13,920 little earlier uh and 2131 01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:17,280 and be more more of an advocate 2132 01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:19,280 i think would be very good and that 2133 01:13:23,510 --> 01:13:20,400 would be a wrench 2134 01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:23,520 for them in in their in their very in 2135 01:13:28,070 --> 01:13:25,520 their meticulously created 2136 01:13:28,790 --> 01:13:28,080 you know wheel the intervention the 2137 01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:28,800 allies say 2138 01:13:35,030 --> 01:13:32,320 um they do not think creatively okay 2139 01:13:35,910 --> 01:13:35,040 they are they do not even think as 2140 01:13:39,189 --> 01:13:35,920 individuals 2141 01:13:40,870 --> 01:13:39,199 this is a hive mind so when you do 2142 01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:40,880 things that they're not expecting or 2143 01:13:45,669 --> 01:13:42,239 they aren't in the playbook 2144 01:13:47,430 --> 01:13:45,679 they do not know how to respond 2145 01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:47,440 and so do things that aren't in the 2146 01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:49,760 playbook that's what i think 2147 01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:52,000 and they will not know how to respond 2148 01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:53,760 and uh we become 2149 01:13:56,950 --> 01:13:56,400 a more complex arrangement for them less 2150 01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:56,960 of a 2151 01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:00,159 you know a turn switch or a turnkey 2152 01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:02,000 solution for them 2153 01:14:05,350 --> 01:14:04,239 i think that's kind of where action 2154 01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:05,360 needs to go 2155 01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:08,080 so i hope i've asked enough questions 2156 01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:08,800 for those 2157 01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:11,600 that are curious about you know who what 2158 01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:13,199 when where 2159 01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:16,000 my next set of questions i hope uh that 2160 01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:17,520 we can maybe get into i know it's a 2161 01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:19,679 little bit later in the interview 2162 01:14:23,590 --> 01:14:22,320 but what is their point of view on the 2163 01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:23,600 general 2164 01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:26,480 human being and soul and spirit in in 2165 01:14:29,430 --> 01:14:27,120 general 2166 01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:29,440 um is there do you can you speak on that 2167 01:14:33,910 --> 01:14:31,280 you know kind of regarding um 2168 01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:33,920 you know because the belief is that we 2169 01:14:37,350 --> 01:14:34,960 are souls 2170 01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:37,360 that we are part of the one and that we 2171 01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:38,880 all have in our own individual 2172 01:14:41,990 --> 01:14:39,920 experiences 2173 01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:42,000 um can they have they spoken regarding 2174 01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:43,280 that at all they have 2175 01:14:47,350 --> 01:14:45,520 they have a lot and i mean this is where 2176 01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,360 the new message from god comes in which 2177 01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:49,199 is really the affirmation that we are 2178 01:14:53,189 --> 01:14:50,960 spiritual beings in the world 2179 01:14:54,870 --> 01:14:53,199 we were sent into this world at this 2180 01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:54,880 time to play a unique 2181 01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:58,320 part in securing you know this 2182 01:15:01,350 --> 01:15:00,560 learning opportunity for humanity making 2183 01:15:04,149 --> 01:15:01,360 this 2184 01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:04,159 world a place where souls can come to 2185 01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:05,040 realize 2186 01:15:09,910 --> 01:15:08,159 and reclaim what they know and slowly 2187 01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:09,920 over many lifetimes reunite with their 2188 01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:11,280 source 2189 01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:15,600 this is what the new message calls 2190 01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:17,920 greater community spirituality it's the 2191 01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:19,920 spirituality of the universe 2192 01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:23,280 all sentient beings share this it speaks 2193 01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:25,360 of the separation from god that created 2194 01:15:28,709 --> 01:15:27,199 the physical universe 2195 01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:28,719 the fact that we are all journeying 2196 01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:32,080 across lifetimes slowly reclaiming 2197 01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:34,239 god into ourselves and ending the 2198 01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:35,440 separation 2199 01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:38,000 within us and that this lifetime is an 2200 01:15:43,350 --> 01:15:40,080 opportunity to continue that process 2201 01:15:45,750 --> 01:15:43,360 as is every lifetime so um the 2202 01:15:48,229 --> 01:15:45,760 there is a very spiritual and divine 2203 01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:48,239 aspect to what the allies are doing 2204 01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:50,480 i mean they are literally souls who 2205 01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:52,480 responded to a calling 2206 01:15:56,870 --> 01:15:54,400 from knowledge the spiritual mind within 2207 01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:56,880 them to reach out to a young emerging 2208 01:16:02,790 --> 01:15:59,679 world to impart their wisdom 2209 01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:02,800 wisdom gained in very difficult way 2210 01:16:06,550 --> 01:16:05,440 because their own races had intervention 2211 01:16:08,390 --> 01:16:06,560 in their worlds 2212 01:16:09,910 --> 01:16:08,400 and for some of the allies they did not 2213 01:16:11,750 --> 01:16:09,920 resist that intervention 2214 01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:11,760 enough and their worlds were almost 2215 01:16:15,189 --> 01:16:13,520 completely lost 2216 01:16:17,110 --> 01:16:15,199 and they were only won back through 2217 01:16:18,950 --> 01:16:17,120 great struggle and great loss 2218 01:16:20,310 --> 01:16:18,960 so there's a lot of conviction that 2219 01:16:23,590 --> 01:16:20,320 they've been called upon 2220 01:16:26,229 --> 01:16:23,600 by a higher power to give to us 2221 01:16:26,790 --> 01:16:26,239 so there's a process of those who are 2222 01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,800 mature 2223 01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:28,640 those who have achieved something gain 2224 01:16:32,550 --> 01:16:30,320 something giving that 2225 01:16:33,669 --> 01:16:32,560 down to ones who are just emerging who 2226 01:16:35,350 --> 01:16:33,679 are young 2227 01:16:37,110 --> 01:16:35,360 and do not know what they're stepping 2228 01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:37,120 out into and that is 2229 01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:38,640 triggered at this deeper level of 2230 01:16:42,950 --> 01:16:40,159 knowledge 2231 01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:42,960 so there is a sole reality uh within 2232 01:16:48,390 --> 01:16:44,159 each of us the allies 2233 01:16:49,830 --> 01:16:48,400 honor that and recognize it in fact 2234 01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:49,840 they say that we are actually quite 2235 01:16:53,830 --> 01:16:52,159 spiritually rich as a race 2236 01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:53,840 you know we judge ourselves a lot down 2237 01:16:58,950 --> 01:16:55,600 here we think we're really low 2238 01:17:02,070 --> 01:16:58,960 and violent and you know not worthy of 2239 01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:02,080 of anything godly or beyond 2240 01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:04,080 or that we need you know someone else to 2241 01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:05,920 come here and redeem us 2242 01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:08,800 actually we're spiritually quite rich we 2243 01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:10,560 are a disorganized world of seven 2244 01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:12,239 billion warring peoples 2245 01:17:16,470 --> 01:17:14,640 nations tribes but that's slowly 2246 01:17:18,550 --> 01:17:16,480 changing we're slowly becoming you know 2247 01:17:21,990 --> 01:17:18,560 a world community 2248 01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:22,000 with values that we share and the allies 2249 01:17:25,350 --> 01:17:23,920 say that that's actually a gift that we 2250 01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:25,360 have that we could give out into the 2251 01:17:29,669 --> 01:17:27,120 greater community 2252 01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:29,679 that this human race has something to 2253 01:17:32,870 --> 01:17:30,719 offer 2254 01:17:33,750 --> 01:17:32,880 actually extraterrestrial life that's 2255 01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:33,760 out there but 2256 01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:35,440 to do that we need to survive the 2257 01:17:40,310 --> 01:17:37,280 process of first contact 2258 01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:40,320 so this intervention do they say that 2259 01:17:43,750 --> 01:17:41,840 they would also 2260 01:17:45,510 --> 01:17:43,760 obviously not to be outside of this 2261 01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:45,520 overall creation that they're also 2262 01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:49,040 souls doing their part too um 2263 01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:52,000 is that is that the case or is it are we 2264 01:17:57,910 --> 01:17:54,800 talking about more like um 2265 01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:57,920 a creation that's more like a.i doing 2266 01:18:00,630 --> 01:17:58,640 its thing 2267 01:18:02,630 --> 01:18:00,640 great great question well no the 2268 01:18:04,870 --> 01:18:02,640 intervention is composed 2269 01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:04,880 of of physical life forms physical 2270 01:18:08,470 --> 01:18:06,000 sentient beings 2271 01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:08,480 who also have knowledge who also have 2272 01:18:12,550 --> 01:18:09,280 the potential 2273 01:18:13,750 --> 01:18:12,560 to express this same force of redemption 2274 01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:13,760 or 2275 01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:16,320 spiritual nature whatever you'd like to 2276 01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:17,440 call it 2277 01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:20,640 however and unfortunately they come 2278 01:18:27,189 --> 01:18:24,159 they are part of worlds and and groups 2279 01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:27,199 in which their individual thinking 2280 01:18:31,750 --> 01:18:28,880 and cognitive abilities have been 2281 01:18:35,030 --> 01:18:31,760 genetically bred out of them 2282 01:18:37,270 --> 01:18:35,040 so they have lost their ability to think 2283 01:18:38,709 --> 01:18:37,280 individually they are part of a hive 2284 01:18:40,870 --> 01:18:38,719 consciousness 2285 01:18:42,149 --> 01:18:40,880 at least the collectives are those these 2286 01:18:44,229 --> 01:18:42,159 collectives that are you know 2287 01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:44,239 undertaking this intervention 2288 01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:47,920 so um the allies say um they do not 2289 01:18:52,709 --> 01:18:50,560 honor the soul in you they do not honor 2290 01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:52,719 the potential of you individually 2291 01:18:56,709 --> 01:18:55,120 they see you as a resource therefore 2292 01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:56,719 they need to be resisted 2293 01:19:00,950 --> 01:18:59,040 however they do not need to be hated 2294 01:19:03,669 --> 01:19:00,960 they are not evil 2295 01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:03,679 they are physical beings with the need 2296 01:19:06,630 --> 01:19:04,080 to 2297 01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:06,640 survive and claim resources i mean this 2298 01:19:11,910 --> 01:19:08,719 is nature taking place 2299 01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:11,920 but they are not they are not aware 2300 01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:14,159 of what is truly good they are 2301 01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,880 delusional about what they think is good 2302 01:19:19,910 --> 01:19:18,480 and they are doing damage they are 2303 01:19:23,430 --> 01:19:19,920 harming other beings 2304 01:19:25,750 --> 01:19:23,440 and so they must be resisted um but 2305 01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:25,760 the universe as the world is is full of 2306 01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:27,440 the good the bad the ugly i mean 2307 01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:29,600 everything right it's all out there 2308 01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:32,400 and but at its core the universe is a 2309 01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:34,320 place where redemption is meant to occur 2310 01:19:38,470 --> 01:19:36,239 that's actually the only reason the 2311 01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:38,480 universe physically exists is because 2312 01:19:42,470 --> 01:19:41,360 part of creation before time and space 2313 01:19:44,950 --> 01:19:42,480 existed 2314 01:19:46,550 --> 01:19:44,960 needed a place to be separate from the 2315 01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:46,560 creator of all life 2316 01:19:50,390 --> 01:19:48,320 and that gets into the theology of the 2317 01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:50,400 new message which is quite deep 2318 01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:52,080 uh there's a book greater community 2319 01:19:56,470 --> 01:19:54,560 spirituality which is free online 2320 01:19:59,430 --> 01:19:56,480 which i recommend reading if you want 2321 01:20:02,390 --> 01:19:59,440 that more that deep theological dive 2322 01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:02,400 regarding the universe but the allies 2323 01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:03,840 come in the spirit of that they're very 2324 01:20:08,950 --> 01:20:05,520 much a part of that 2325 01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:08,960 process of the good expressing itself in 2326 01:20:12,870 --> 01:20:10,320 a universe 2327 01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:12,880 where many are are not with the good 2328 01:20:15,990 --> 01:20:14,719 within themselves they're acting out of 2329 01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:16,000 other motives 2330 01:20:20,390 --> 01:20:19,679 and yet the good over time grows and it 2331 01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:20,400 grows 2332 01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:22,400 uh and at the scale of the universe 2333 01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,320 we're talking billions of years so 2334 01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:26,400 that's beyond my capability to even 2335 01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:27,600 imagine but 2336 01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:30,560 uh it is happening and the intervention 2337 01:20:34,390 --> 01:20:32,000 though it looks really negative 2338 01:20:36,149 --> 01:20:34,400 and i don't want people to take this as 2339 01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:36,159 a message of fear 2340 01:20:39,910 --> 01:20:38,000 because it's not this is a message of 2341 01:20:42,310 --> 01:20:39,920 destiny i mean we are 2342 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:42,320 meant to emerge into a larger universe 2343 01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:44,560 we are eclipsing our isolation 2344 01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:46,960 that has been in place not fully but 2345 01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:48,320 almost completely 2346 01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:51,760 for hundreds of thousands of years as an 2347 01:20:55,550 --> 01:20:53,040 emerging species 2348 01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:55,560 we're making contact with the other 2349 01:21:00,310 --> 01:20:58,320 99.999 percent of what's out there 2350 01:21:03,669 --> 01:21:00,320 so this is this is destiny that this 2351 01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:03,679 happens it's just that the first steps 2352 01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:07,679 out are quite risky if we can get beyond 2353 01:21:11,430 --> 01:21:10,159 those first risky steps and repel this 2354 01:21:14,149 --> 01:21:11,440 intervention 2355 01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:14,159 unify our world sufficiently protect our 2356 01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:15,120 environment 2357 01:21:18,870 --> 01:21:17,520 secure our self-sufficiency the level of 2358 01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:18,880 resources 2359 01:21:23,910 --> 01:21:21,600 then we can be a free world we could 2360 01:21:25,910 --> 01:21:23,920 essentially be an ally of humanity to 2361 01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:25,920 another young race that is also in that 2362 01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:27,440 process of stepping out 2363 01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:30,960 would it um that almost kind of you know 2364 01:21:35,110 --> 01:21:33,760 makes me think of us for example you 2365 01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:35,120 know 2366 01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:40,239 food but it doesn't necessarily mean 2367 01:21:44,390 --> 01:21:41,679 that we are evil 2368 01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:44,400 you know um i've often said for myself i 2369 01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:46,080 can't speak for others that 2370 01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,880 you know um have the ability to but if i 2371 01:21:52,310 --> 01:21:50,400 had to go and and hunt 2372 01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:52,320 uh you know my own food i'll probably be 2373 01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:54,639 a vegetarian you know 2374 01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:56,239 because you know because it's the 2375 01:22:00,870 --> 01:21:58,239 process of you know going out 2376 01:22:01,430 --> 01:22:00,880 uh you know looking at the other being 2377 01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:01,440 and 2378 01:22:04,709 --> 01:22:03,520 killing it so that you can consume it 2379 01:22:07,270 --> 01:22:04,719 and so of course we 2380 01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:07,280 do it in this mass uh process you know 2381 01:22:11,830 --> 01:22:09,360 like slaughterhouses and whatnot but 2382 01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:11,840 and we all end up you know it ends up at 2383 01:22:14,709 --> 01:22:12,639 our table 2384 01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:14,719 but it doesn't mean that we're in 2385 01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:15,760 inherently evil 2386 01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:17,840 you know we're just you know that it's 2387 01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:18,880 our 2388 01:22:24,229 --> 01:22:21,920 kind of like blindfold to so that 2389 01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:24,239 because the urge to survive and live and 2390 01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:26,159 continue to live is stronger 2391 01:22:30,470 --> 01:22:29,040 than than empathy in some way with that 2392 01:22:32,010 --> 01:22:30,480 with that animal 2393 01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:32,020 because um um 2394 01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:33,600 [Music] 2395 01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:35,440 because a lot of us will look at look at 2396 01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:37,199 that i've i haven't 2397 01:22:40,550 --> 01:22:39,360 known anybody that would say oh yeah 2398 01:22:41,990 --> 01:22:40,560 let's just watch some videos of 2399 01:22:42,709 --> 01:22:42,000 slaughterhouses that would just be like 2400 01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:42,719 god that's all 2401 01:22:46,149 --> 01:22:44,560 horrible i don't want to watch this you 2402 01:22:48,629 --> 01:22:46,159 know and so 2403 01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:48,639 um would you say it's almost kind of 2404 01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:50,400 like a similar approach to that to that 2405 01:22:55,270 --> 01:22:52,000 intervention that they 2406 01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:55,280 they just they just like you know just 2407 01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:56,639 have this 2408 01:23:01,030 --> 01:22:58,800 i guess lack of emotions but then also 2409 01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:01,040 just this natural way to just keep on 2410 01:23:04,229 --> 01:23:02,800 living and surviving and doing whatever 2411 01:23:07,030 --> 01:23:04,239 you have to do to 2412 01:23:07,430 --> 01:23:07,040 to keep keep your existence going yeah 2413 01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:07,440 uh 2414 01:23:10,950 --> 01:23:10,080 well they are tr they are surviving um 2415 01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:10,960 there are 2416 01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:12,880 a couple things that differentiate this 2417 01:23:17,510 --> 01:23:15,440 from our consumption of animals 2418 01:23:18,870 --> 01:23:17,520 um the first is that we are sentient 2419 01:23:21,430 --> 01:23:18,880 beings 2420 01:23:23,110 --> 01:23:21,440 and you know it is inherently an 2421 01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,120 abomination 2422 01:23:26,310 --> 01:23:25,440 to kill a sentient being for their 2423 01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:26,320 resources 2424 01:23:29,350 --> 01:23:28,480 even if it's for your consumption i 2425 01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:29,360 think we all 2426 01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:32,080 kind of know that uh at a gut level you 2427 01:23:37,030 --> 01:23:34,239 know cannibalism is not a good thing 2428 01:23:38,629 --> 01:23:37,040 right can you please define centurion 2429 01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:38,639 before you move on i'm sorry i hate to 2430 01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:40,320 interrupt 2431 01:23:44,629 --> 01:23:43,120 me meaning kind of uh reason and thought 2432 01:23:46,550 --> 01:23:44,639 as opposed to what we 2433 01:23:48,310 --> 01:23:46,560 perceive in animals that they don't 2434 01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:48,320 necessarily have it on the same level as 2435 01:23:52,629 --> 01:23:50,159 we do is that what you do i would say 2436 01:23:55,270 --> 01:23:52,639 a capability an intellectual or 2437 01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:55,280 capability that allows a soul to inhabit 2438 01:23:58,709 --> 01:23:55,920 the body 2439 01:24:01,669 --> 01:23:58,719 and to express the soul's will in 2440 01:24:03,510 --> 01:24:01,679 separate in physical form 2441 01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:03,520 so yes i mean you could commonly call it 2442 01:24:08,149 --> 01:24:05,120 intelligent race 2443 01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:08,159 um but you know um 2444 01:24:11,669 --> 01:24:10,800 we are sentient so we we do possess a 2445 01:24:13,350 --> 01:24:11,679 soul that is 2446 01:24:16,229 --> 01:24:13,360 attempting to express itself through 2447 01:24:18,390 --> 01:24:16,239 this opportunity of life 2448 01:24:20,310 --> 01:24:18,400 and so the intervention is is killing 2449 01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:20,320 taking and killing and terminating those 2450 01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:22,719 people and taking away their opportunity 2451 01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:26,560 for life so that is inherently wrong 2452 01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:28,960 and also they're not consuming us for 2453 01:24:32,950 --> 01:24:30,719 their survival 2454 01:24:34,229 --> 01:24:32,960 they're they're taking us for their 2455 01:24:37,030 --> 01:24:34,239 benefit 2456 01:24:39,030 --> 01:24:37,040 their expansion and the fulfillment of 2457 01:24:39,750 --> 01:24:39,040 their ideals whatever those may be 2458 01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:39,760 whatever 2459 01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:41,199 whether it's you know expanding their 2460 01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:42,960 little their empire or 2461 01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:44,639 enriching their customers and their own 2462 01:24:50,950 --> 01:24:46,639 selves it's enrichment 2463 01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:50,960 and expansion it's not based survival 2464 01:24:54,149 --> 01:24:53,040 but yeah i get what you're asking and 2465 01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:54,159 and you know 2466 01:24:57,510 --> 01:24:55,440 you're making me cringe a little bit 2467 01:24:59,270 --> 01:24:57,520 thinking of slaughterhouses um 2468 01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:59,280 and it is you know it's it's it's a 2469 01:25:01,750 --> 01:25:00,800 question we all have to ask you know 2470 01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:01,760 which is 2471 01:25:06,229 --> 01:25:03,280 what what are we willing to do to 2472 01:25:08,070 --> 01:25:06,239 another creature 2473 01:25:09,910 --> 01:25:08,080 i think i'm pretty sure i'm pretty 2474 01:25:12,709 --> 01:25:09,920 certain i know what i can and cannot do 2475 01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:12,719 to another being 2476 01:25:16,070 --> 01:25:14,960 and but their value system is not our 2477 01:25:19,430 --> 01:25:16,080 value system 2478 01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:19,440 and they do not think of us as beings 2479 01:25:25,750 --> 01:25:22,480 with souls who deserve to live 2480 01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:25,760 we are critters on the ground to be used 2481 01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:26,639 and that 2482 01:25:30,709 --> 01:25:29,520 that is that is to be rejected i feel 2483 01:25:33,510 --> 01:25:30,719 for us 2484 01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:33,520 um as as i mean that if you if you allow 2485 01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:34,719 that 2486 01:25:39,830 --> 01:25:38,080 i mean you know good luck and 2487 01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:39,840 allying yourself to the intervention 2488 01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:41,360 well reid uh do you have any 2489 01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:44,320 uh concluding thoughts uh and uh then if 2490 01:25:48,229 --> 01:25:46,320 you could also please finish up with 2491 01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:48,239 with the different websites and more 2492 01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:49,600 information where people sure 2493 01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:51,520 well i was actually gonna say in the 2494 01:25:54,870 --> 01:25:53,199 very beginning you know about myself 2495 01:25:56,550 --> 01:25:54,880 because i didn't say all that much 2496 01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:56,560 you know in some ways i'm i'm very much 2497 01:26:01,990 --> 01:25:59,199 like many of of you out there 2498 01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:02,000 i am connected to the reality of life in 2499 01:26:05,830 --> 01:26:03,840 the universe and i know it 2500 01:26:07,750 --> 01:26:05,840 and it would be strange to be in the 2501 01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:07,760 world to not have that connection it 2502 01:26:11,189 --> 01:26:08,000 would 2503 01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:11,199 feel like i'm not me and so 2504 01:26:15,750 --> 01:26:13,760 you know i'm also seeking to find you 2505 01:26:17,030 --> 01:26:15,760 know what contact means for me and how 2506 01:26:18,790 --> 01:26:17,040 i'm connected to this 2507 01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:18,800 because i do feel like i was sent into 2508 01:26:21,270 --> 01:26:20,480 the world to be a part of this in some 2509 01:26:23,750 --> 01:26:21,280 way 2510 01:26:25,189 --> 01:26:23,760 and i think other people feel that and 2511 01:26:26,790 --> 01:26:25,199 it's hard to walk 2512 01:26:28,310 --> 01:26:26,800 walk around with that you know very 2513 01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:28,320 there's very little that affirms that 2514 01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:30,400 part of your deeper nature 2515 01:26:36,550 --> 01:26:33,920 um and so if if this has your name on it 2516 01:26:38,149 --> 01:26:36,560 this whole reality of contact humanity's 2517 01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:38,159 future in space 2518 01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:40,560 then stay with it because it's a part of 2519 01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:41,600 you 2520 01:26:47,510 --> 01:26:45,120 needs 2521 01:26:49,270 --> 01:26:47,520 this these few people these forerunners 2522 01:26:52,229 --> 01:26:49,280 to hold this reality 2523 01:26:52,950 --> 01:26:52,239 to learn what it means to respond to it 2524 01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:52,960 because 2525 01:26:56,709 --> 01:26:54,639 eventually all of humanity will be 2526 01:26:59,189 --> 01:26:56,719 responding to it and it'll be the 2527 01:27:00,870 --> 01:26:59,199 acknowledged and accepted norm but if 2528 01:27:01,750 --> 01:27:00,880 these few people in the beginning did 2529 01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:01,760 not see it 2530 01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:03,440 clearly and respond to the level of 2531 01:27:07,189 --> 01:27:05,040 knowledge within themselves 2532 01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:07,199 there may not be a norm there may not be 2533 01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:08,400 a humanity 2534 01:27:11,910 --> 01:27:10,800 believe it or not enslavement is a real 2535 01:27:14,870 --> 01:27:11,920 possibility 2536 01:27:16,550 --> 01:27:14,880 that's what the allies say so people who 2537 01:27:17,669 --> 01:27:16,560 feel this connection are very important 2538 01:27:20,229 --> 01:27:17,679 that's all i want to say 2539 01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:20,239 and i want to acknowledge them and 2540 01:27:24,870 --> 01:27:22,000 affirm that what they are knowing 2541 01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:24,880 is real and that the truth is there it's 2542 01:27:29,669 --> 01:27:26,080 in them 2543 01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:29,679 guide them to what they need to find 2544 01:27:33,669 --> 01:27:31,760 great thank you for that and uh yeah if 2545 01:27:35,350 --> 01:27:33,679 you could uh um of course i'm gonna have 2546 01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:35,360 it in the description below but if you 2547 01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:36,000 could please 2548 01:27:39,990 --> 01:27:38,639 uh go over your websites and the the 2549 01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:40,000 different information that you would 2550 01:27:41,990 --> 01:27:41,600 like people to see i would appreciate 2551 01:27:44,310 --> 01:27:42,000 that 2552 01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:44,320 okay yeah so the allies of humanity 2553 01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:45,520 briefings 2554 01:27:50,470 --> 01:27:48,639 are at allies of humanity.org there are 2555 01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:50,480 four sets of briefings 2556 01:27:54,070 --> 01:27:52,400 uh they're translated into numerous 2557 01:27:55,669 --> 01:27:54,080 languages they're all free online for 2558 01:27:58,830 --> 01:27:55,679 you to read and to download 2559 01:28:01,430 --> 01:27:58,840 so i encourage you to read the allies 2560 01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:01,440 briefings the new message from god 2561 01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:03,440 also received by my father marshall leon 2562 01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:06,560 summers is at new message.org 2563 01:28:12,550 --> 01:28:10,320 there are hundreds of revelations 2564 01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:12,560 up there for you to read that are part 2565 01:28:16,149 --> 01:28:14,560 of this whole picture that's unfolding 2566 01:28:18,550 --> 01:28:16,159 about the greater community 2567 01:28:20,310 --> 01:28:18,560 our emergence into it and how knowledge 2568 01:28:21,590 --> 01:28:20,320 that the knowledge we carry is connected 2569 01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:21,600 to that 2570 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,760 and then lastly the human sovereignty 2571 01:28:28,229 --> 01:28:25,920 the declaration of human sovereignty 2572 01:28:30,149 --> 01:28:28,239 a document written by a group of 2573 01:28:32,070 --> 01:28:30,159 individuals some years ago 2574 01:28:34,229 --> 01:28:32,080 uh modeled on the united states 2575 01:28:37,430 --> 01:28:34,239 declaration of independence 2576 01:28:39,669 --> 01:28:37,440 is at humansoverity.org 2577 01:28:42,070 --> 01:28:39,679 print it put it on your wall put it on a 2578 01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:42,080 flyer on a bulletin board uh 2579 01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:44,159 help other people see the picture that's 2580 01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:45,920 unfolding before our eyes regarding 2581 01:28:50,229 --> 01:28:47,040 who's in our world 2582 01:28:52,550 --> 01:28:50,239 and what they're doing and why so 2583 01:28:53,350 --> 01:28:52,560 those are the resources and i also want 2584 01:28:55,350 --> 01:28:53,360 to just throw in 2585 01:28:57,030 --> 01:28:55,360 there's there's a community of people 2586 01:28:58,149 --> 01:28:57,040 worldwide who are responding to all of 2587 01:29:01,110 --> 01:28:58,159 this so 2588 01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:01,120 you know we're not alone in responding 2589 01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:02,560 to the allies briefings or the new 2590 01:29:05,270 --> 01:29:03,760 message 2591 01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:05,280 there's a whole community of people many 2592 01:29:07,270 --> 01:29:06,639 hundreds of people around the world 2593 01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:07,280 studying 2594 01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:10,320 sharing advocating and so there's a lot 2595 01:29:13,669 --> 01:29:11,920 to be a part of as well 2596 01:29:15,430 --> 01:29:13,679 well reid thank you very much for all 2597 01:29:17,750 --> 01:29:15,440 the information i appreciate you again 2598 01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:17,760 for taking the time to talk to me today 2599 01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:20,560 and um also thank everyone else for 2600 01:29:24,310 --> 01:29:21,199 watching